CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[BTKTB]

It's my first time posting here but really i have to ask.

Why Fujian seems so "empty" and the Aircrafts on top of it always seem to be the same number (couple of each 3 types of aircrafts) and they're always in the same position? is something wrong? or it's just a photography thing or what's happening here?

Sorry for the very low quality post, just really needed to ask.

Good ragebaiter comment, very low quality post indeed.
China is rigorous when it comes to military development, also China doesnt know magic, you are just assuming China is already capable of operating its 1st CATOBAR carrier the way americans operate theirs, you are the one overreaching not China

 

[no_name]

I suspect that Fujian will become primarily a training/long term reserve carrier within the next decade. It has a deck, island and layout very similar to what the nuclear carriers will have, so its ideal for pilot, aircrew and regular crew training. And because its conventional, it can be stored for a long time but readied relatively quickly if needed.

Not before 2050.

 

[HailingTX20]

If so, what was that funnel being tested on carrier test building in Wuhan for?

As I see it, there are three possible explanations:

1) Whatever was tested didn't yield the desired results, so it was scrapped.

2) It is indeed just part of the building and has nothing to do with the testing itself.

3) The funnel is being tested for a future conventional carrier.

 

[A.Man]

The Chinese Perspective:

 

[mack8]

What seems to be a 003 precursor from around 2010, with 2 steam cats.

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[taxiya]

What seems to be a 003 precursor from around 2010, with 2 steam cats.

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The image in the post stated "some foreign flight deck". Nowhere says domestic design, nor steam cats. Yet the poster firmly calling it steam design. I must say the guy has a very strange circuitry in his brain.

 

[Owlfelino]

Henry K on East Pendulumn has a decent article about China's potential 002 conventional CATOBAR carrier.

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If he is right, we should see some evidence of 002 in the next couple of years. He believes China will build two of the conventional CATOBAR 002 carriers.

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The image in the post stated "some foreign flight deck". Nowhere says domestic design, nor steam cats. Yet the poster firmly calling it steam design. I must say the guy has a very strange circuitry in his brain.

The term 'foreign design' is merely a euphemism used for sanitization and declassification purposes—a fact well-known to anyone who frequently researches Chinese military equipment papers.

Given that China had not yet formally initiated an EMALS program in the early 2010s, the technical route for the catapults in this proposal should be self-evident.

Furthermore, if you review this thread carefully, you’ll find the schematic for this design in the very first post, the deck layout and island configuration are identical.

 

[Owlfelino]

What seems to be a 003 precursor from around 2010, with 2 steam cats.

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It should also be noted that this design is not the Type 003, but rather what was originally designated as the Type 002. It ultimately served only as a validation platform for hull construction and operational deployment.

The proposal in the paper was most likely abandoned to mitigate technical risks, avoiding the same pitfalls encountered in the CVN-21 program, where cramming too many unproven technologies into a single hull led to significant complications.

 

[taxiya]

The term 'foreign design' is merely a euphemism used for sanitization and declassification purposes—a fact well-known to anyone who frequently researches Chinese military equipment papers.

No, in all papers that I have ever encountered they use "某型"/"certain type" as a place holder for classified program. Your interpretation is the first time I have ever heard of, not well-known at all.

Given that China had not yet formally initiated an EMALS program in the early 2010s, the technical route for the catapults in this proposal should be self-evident.

We know nothing about "formal initiation" of either steam or EMCAT except only know that China has been studying steam cat for decades before 2010.

Furthermore, if you review this thread carefully, you’ll find the schematic for this design in the very first post, the deck layout and island configuration are identical.

So? What does its earlier existence prove? It is still a Chinese paper which mentions "certain foreign flight deck", that is all it says.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

The crew of CV-18 Fujian wishing everyone a Happy Chinese New Year. Posted by @沉默的山羊 on Weibo.