CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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delft said:
How much would building a second production yard cost? How much would training the builders cost?
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Well, if it was a national imperative, they would move personnel between the two yard to train the new people.

But it would be expensive...and would only occur in a national imperative situation...like we had in world War II.

As it is, Newport News does a GREAT job. They are, without a doubt IMHO, the most experienced and advanced carrier building group on earth.

They have been doing it continuously since the first purpose built carrier in US History, CV-4, the USS Ranger, which they built. The Langley and the Saratoga and the Lexington were all conversions (CV-1 thru CV-3).

Newport News has been continuously building carriers since starting the USS Range in 1931. Thats 86 years of continuous building...including all of the Nimitz class and now the first two Ford class.

The history is astounding for that company. Here is a short description:

1934: Newport News launches the first American ship originally designed as an aircraft carrier: USS Ranger (CV 4).

1938 – 1941: Newport News builds the Yorktown-class carriers; USS Yorktown (CV 5), USSEnterprise (CV 6) and USS Hornet (CV 8).

1942: All threeYorktown-class carriers win the Battle of Midway in June of 1942, putting the US Navy on the offensive against the Japanese in WW II. USS Enterprise (CV 6) became the most decorated ship in US Navy history, participating in all but two of the WW II carrier engagements.

1942 – 1946: Newport News builds the first seven ships of the Essex-class Fleet Carriers. The 24-ship class, the largest US aircraft carrier class built, become the WW II Fast Carrier Task Forces in the Pacific. The Essex-class carriers, with modernization, serve through the early 1970s and the Vietnam War.

1945 – 1947: Newport News builds 2 of the 3 Midway-class “battle” carriers; USS Midway (CVB 41) and USS Coral Sea (CVB 43). Both ships serve into the early 1990s.

1955: Newport News builds the first super carrier USS Forrestal (CVA 59) 1955. The four-ship class, including the Newport News-built USS Ranger (CVA 61) are the first carriers built with angled landing areas on their flight decks and designed to operate jet aircraft.

1961: Newport News builds the first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier: USS Enterprise (CVN 65)

1964 – 1968: Newport News builds the carriers USS America (CV 66) and USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67).

1972 – 2008: Newport News builds all Nimitz-class carriers, 10 in all.

2008 – present: Newport News builds Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78), the first of a new class of carriers.

That's 86 years of continuous carrier building.

The current USS John F. Kennedy is the 30th carrier they have built in that 86 year history, and the USS Enterprise (CVN-80) which will follow the new JFK, will be the 31st.

An amazing history.
 
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antiterror13

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Jeff Head said:
Well, if it was a national imperative, they would move personnel between the two yard to train the new people.

But it would be expensive...and would only occur in a national imperative situation...like we had in world War II.

As it is, Newport News does a GREAT job. They are, without a doubt IMHO, the most experienced and advanced carrier building group on earth.

They have been doing it continuously since the first purpose built carrier in US History, CV-4, the USS Ranger, which they built. The Langley and the Saratoga and the Lexington were all conversions (CV-1 thru CV-3).

Newport News has been continuously building carriers since starting the USS Range in 1931. Thats 86 years of continuous building...including all of the Nimitz class and now the first two Ford class.

The history is astounding for that company. Here is a short description:

1934: Newport News launches the first American ship originally designed as an aircraft carrier: USS Ranger (CV 4).

1938 – 1941: Newport News builds the Yorktown-class carriers; USS Yorktown (CV 5), USSEnterprise (CV 6) and USS Hornet (CV 8).

1942: All threeYorktown-class carriers win the Battle of Midway in June of 1942, putting the US Navy on the offensive against the Japanese in WW II. USS Enterprise (CV 6) became the most decorated ship in US Navy history, participating in all but two of the WW II carrier engagements.

1942 – 1946: Newport News builds the first seven ships of the Essex-class Fleet Carriers. The 24-ship class, the largest US aircraft carrier class built, become the WW II Fast Carrier Task Forces in the Pacific. The Essex-class carriers, with modernization, serve through the early 1970s and the Vietnam War.

1945 – 1947: Newport News builds 2 of the 3 Midway-class “battle” carriers; USS Midway (CVB 41) and USS Coral Sea (CVB 43). Both ships serve into the early 1990s.

1955: Newport News builds the first super carrier USS Forrestal (CVA 59) 1955. The four-ship class, including the Newport News-built USS Ranger (CVA 61) are the first carriers built with angled landing areas on their flight decks and designed to operate jet aircraft.

1961: Newport News builds the first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier: USS Enterprise (CVN 65)

1964 – 1968: Newport News builds the carriers USS America (CV 66) and USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67).

1972 – 2008: Newport News builds all Nimitz-class carriers, 10 in all.

2008 – present: Newport News builds Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78), the first of a new class of carriers.

That's 86 years of continuous carrier building.

The current USS John F. Kennedy is the 30th carrier they have built in that 86 year history, and the USS Enterprise (CVN-80) which will follow the new JFK, will be the 31st.

An amazing history.
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It is indeed amazing building carriers continuously for 86 years!

Because Newport is the only company can build carrier in the US ... I wonder how the US Govt keep the company competitive? as we know, without competition ... people tend to be less competitive

In China there are two companies can build carriers
 
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antiterror13 said:
It is indeed amazing building carriers continuously for 86 years!

Because Newport is the only company can build carrier in the US ... I wonder how the US Govt keep the company competitive? as we know, without competition ... people tend to be less competitive

In China there are two companies can build carriers
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It is a very large shipyard the Dry Dock 12 do 660 m long, Outfitting Berth 1 do 510 m ! and during 1986 - 98 a new CVN all the 3 years enter in service... build also Virginia half as they have build 31 on 62 L.A the specialist which have designed all nuclear submarines excep L.A ( N News ) and build the 1st USN SSK the Holland is Electic Boat ( General Dynamics is the owner now ) to Groton 100 + years ago...
 
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subotai1

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delft said:
How much would building a second production yard cost? How much would training the builders cost?
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Its rarely the final assembly locations that are the problem. Its the entire production and supply chain prior to assembly where the bottlenecks occur. The facilities for steal production, weapons, reactors, etc., have to either be available or converted from some other purpose (as happened during WWII). And the US has lost a number of those military oriented and convertible facilities over the last 50 years.
 
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I think but not completely sure... are we certain now the CV-18 is or will be build to Jiangnan Shipyard to Shanghai ?

I see also 75 - 80000 tons can do 315 - 320 m ? the Shadong do at less 305 about some say 315 m max 70000 t.
 
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