CV-16, CV-17 STOBAR carrier thread (001/Liaoning, 002/Shandong)

[F.L.]

The Yak-44's final design configuration had the aircraft equipped with Progress D-27 engines nominally rated at ~10,000kW each compared to ~4000kW each for the T56 engines on E-2C Hawkeye (and similar given for the WJ-6 engines on KJ-600). Yak-44 having such powerful engines only makes sense if it was indeed intended to operate without the assistance of a catapult.

Very interessant, mate, thanks !

 

[pkj]

The Yak-44's final design configuration had the aircraft equipped with Progress D-27 engines nominally rated at ~10,000kW each compared to ~4000kW each for the T56 engines on E-2C Hawkeye (and similar given for the WJ-6 engines on KJ-600). Yak-44 having such powerful engines only makes sense if it was indeed intended to operate without the assistance of a catapult.

Bottomline, AWAC and COD are unlikely for CV-16 and CV-17 in the near future.

Thank you very much.

 

[minime]

Bottomline, AWAC and COD are unlikely for CV-16 and CV-17 in the near future.

Thank you very much.

Carrier with or without fix-wing AWACS will be night and day difference.
How about rocket assist take off like C-130 did back in the day?

 

[Franklin]

Today marks the 4th anniversary of the commissioning of carrier Shandong.

After more than a decade of operating aircraft carriers things have become banal. I remember back in 2012 when the first carrier
sea trails started members here couldn’t sleep.

 

[snake65]

The Yak-44's final design configuration had the aircraft equipped with Progress D-27 engines nominally rated at ~10,000kW each compared to ~4000kW each for the T56 engines on E-2C Hawkeye (and similar given for the WJ-6 engines on KJ-600). Yak-44 having such powerful engines only makes sense if it was indeed intended to operate without the assistance of a catapult.

Well, yes and no. The actual requirement was a rather weird one - to manage a take-off with engine failure. On the other hand, surplus power certainly would have been sufficient even for un-assisted take-off (neither cat nor ski-jump).

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Seems like CV-16 Liaoning will be ready for sea trials pretty soon. Posted by

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[ACuriousPLAFan]

Seems like CV-16 Liaoning will be ready for sea trials pretty soon. Posted by

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Full shot of the photo, in case anyone's curious. Posted by @T-kun_CG on Weibo.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

From the historical archives:

Probably one of the very few instances where CV-16 Liaoning and CV-17 Shandong were publicly photographed together. Posted by @单手搓核弹 on Weibo.

 

[pkj]

From the historical archives:

Probably one of the very few instances where CV-16 Liaoning and CV-17 Shandong were publicly photographed together. Posted by @单手搓核弹 on Weibo.

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Looks like another reason why China needs at least 3 (or 3+) carriers per the common paradigm...one in the dock, one in training, and one on station.

 

[TK3600]

Looks like another reason why China needs at least 3 (or 3+) carriers per the common paradigm...one in the dock, one in training, and one on station.

That applies to nuclear carriers only with lengthy resupply.