Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I was planning to get my parents vaccinated in early April. Now I am not sure what to trust anymore. Look to me like Pfizer wants to secure more sales and corners the market. Fauci attempted to shot down the possibility of 1 dose today. But if they can lie about this, then how can I trust their clinical results.
Personally I have no qualms taking the vaccine when it's my turn. If it's true that at least 50% is enough then none of this really matters. The problem is how they think they're not corrupted and in this case by politics claiming their numbers have to be true when clearly the situation can be manipulated. What's more seriously is how the lie about China's vaccine trying scare the rest of the world into not taking it because of their manipulations over efficacy. Not all countries can afford the US/Western vaccines so why are they trying to scare people into not taking the Chinese vaccine when it's at least 50% efficacy which is enough? It's because of politics.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
What I heard was one shot from Pfizer's would reach 85% efficacy in a month.
Hmmmm I think Vesicles said that mRNA gets ejected from the body very quickly. I suppose that would lead to the lowering of the efficacy of the vaccine.
A few days ago someone posted an article on Chinese scientists finding a way of using
using mRNA to shrink cancer tumors. They managed to slow down the breakdown of MRNA to a month for the drug to take effect.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Hmmmm I think Vesicles said that mRNA gets ejected from the body very quickly. I suppose that would lead to the lowering of the efficacy of the vaccine.
A few days ago someone posted an article on Chinese scientists finding a way of using
using mRNA to shrink cancer tumors. They managed to slow down the breakdown of MRNA to a month for the drug to take effect.

That's what I've been talking about. They contradict themselves which means manipulation they accuse of China is happening with themselves which they say they don't do. It may not be from the scientists. It could the media and politicians yet still there can be manipulation.
 

j17wang

Senior Member
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Doesnt matter, look at all the countries singing up for vaccines from China. China's slowness to vaccinate its own people is paying off massively, as there is now an export machine. The relationships Sinopharm built with healthcare professionals in many countries around the world will have innumerable benefits for the 2021-2022 timeframe when china starts testing HIV vaccines, as well as other bio/pharma collaboration.

2 billion production capacity in 2021 for sinopharm and 4 billion in 2022... realistically, there is now a good chance the majority of the world will be vaccinated using chinese vaccines. I'm not even counting Sinovac who is also producing over a billion doses this year or Cansino, who I also expect to hit 500 million doses.

GT has really stepped up its infographics game as of late.

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Shaolian

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The impression I'm getting is that if you are below the age of 60, then any vaccine should be fine. However, for seniors, it'd be better to go for any vaccine apart from the mRNA ones.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
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Here my fav China spokesperson openly asked U.S. to co operate with WHO to investigate Fort Detrick.

Hua Chunying (pictured), spokesperson of China’s Foreign Ministry said during a regular press conference held on Feb. 18 that news reports in the US about the Fort Detrick Biological Base in the second half of 2019 are suspicious enough to make people winder if the US will make public relevant raw data, offer the WHO its unreserved and full cooperation, and invite WHO experts on an independent origin-tracing mission in the country.

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vesicles

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Israel’s latest data analyzed 1.7 million people who have been at least two weeks post their second Pfizer shots. The infection has dropped by 95%. Severe cases and deaths also dropped by 99%. This is very good news. Their study also suggests that, in addition to protecting those with vaccines, the vaccines also prevents transmission. While this is going in the right direction, we still need more concrete data to show prevention of transmission. It’s not conclusive as of yet. I hope they publish their data soon. We need to see the actual data to scrutinize their conclusions.
 
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