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Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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Yesterday at 9:25 PM
Jura said:
what on Earth is
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and now became aware of this funny stuff:
The president’s family and friends have a “financial interest” in a manufacturer of the unproven drug Hydroxychloroquine, the
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reported with the help of more than a dozen reporters Monday evening. Various parties within the Trump orbit that have financial stakes of Sanofi include:
  • “Trump himself has a small personal financial interest in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine.”
  • “As of last year, Mr. Trump reported that his three family trusts each had investments in a Dodge & Cox mutual fund, whose largest holding was in Sanofi.”
  • “Sanofi’s largest shareholders include Fisher Asset Management, the investment company run by Ken Fisher, a major donor to Republicans, including Mr. Trump.”
  • “Another investor in both Sanofi and Mylan, another pharmaceutical firm, is Invesco, the fund previously run by Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary.”
  • Relatedly, “Several generic drugmakers are gearing up to produce hydroxychloroquine pills, including Amneal Pharmaceuticals, whose co-founder Chirag Patel is a member of Trump National Golf Course Bedminster in New Jersey and has golfed with Mr. Trump at least twice since he became president.”
By the way, “The professional organization that published a positive French study cited by Mr. Trump’s allies
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” about that study on Friday, the Times reports. What’s more, “Some hospitals in Sweden stopped providing hydroxychloroquine to treat the coronavirus after reports of adverse side effects.”
One big national security concern from all this: “[T]he president’s assertiveness in pressing the case over the advice of advisers like Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease specialist, has driven a wedge inside his coronavirus task force and has raised questions about his motives.” Continue reading,
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Anlsvrthng

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ZeEa5KPul said:
Yes, test and isolate, ease the lockdown gradually post peak, and rush toward a vaccine. You know, the things China is doing. But China has an icky authoritarian (read effective) government, so we can't do any of that.
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Testing is not a substitution to lockdown, it is part of it.

The lockdown / economic restriction can stop only if at least 60% of the population is immune.

It can be done by natural immunisation or with artificial one.
 
PiSigma

PiSigma

"the engineer"
dratsabknihcllik said:
You must understand that MAJORITY of those countries are poor developing nations and no matter what they feel they are practically helpless.

In British English majority doesn't mean all. I don't know what they teach in Canada but my bet is that there too majority doesn't mean all.

Just a give it a rest. Don't rupture your blood vessels. You should not not get sick and unnecessarily increase the pressure of already strained healthcare system.
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Thanks for the kindergarten level English lesson. The awesome thing about democracies/UN is that these poor developing nations also get a vote. They also represent a large portion of future growth and consumers/market. So getting on their good side is good for future business.

Canada is officially bilingual, that means English and French are used for official purposes. Of course, Quebec mostly use french and rest use English, but everyone learns both languages in school.

We are getting off topic, but the gist of my last few posts is that people should question what they read, most MSM are only half truths at best.
 
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reservior dogs said:
If we are desperate enough, Trump can shorten the cycle for the most promising vaccine by indemnifying it from law suits. It is a given that due to the immaturity of the vaccine, a number of people will die as a result of taking the vaccine. A further number will not be protected when they get infected. Depending on how bad this thing gets, it might be worth the trade-off.
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Problem is, giving vaccine without its safety fully proven over a given time, serious complications or defects can emerge later in life or in the next generation. This can condemned people's life forever. Intentionally cutting corners with protections by law is highly irresponsible.The unknown is not worth the risk.
 
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Chish

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ZeEa5KPul said:
I don't want to pry, but you put it out there. Is this how you want to live? One way plane tickets to China (when this lockdown is lifted) for yourself and your family and your problems are solved. You're a man with a very desirable skill-set, you can write your ticket anywhere.
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I have always wondered, is there anyone here in this forum that actually lives in China? Can they ( Chinese inside China) access this forum. I always try to seek views from all sides.
 
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