Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

OppositeDay

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the poster later explained that, but s/he apparently exaggerated by claiming (Today at 6:17 PM post) "the attack rate in Wuhan was about 1% before the lockdown" as Wuhan is ten plus million people, so it'd mean 100k plus infected Jan. 24

How is it exaggerating? The number of confirmed cases in Wuhan is about 47k and a lot of cases were undetected. This new preprint estimates at least 59% of the cases in Wuhan were undetected.

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1% attack rate is only a guesstimate but by all evidence it's in the right ballpark.
 
Today at 8:17 PM
in Italy Feb 22, 2020
and at that time they had 79 confirmed cases according to
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then
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5883 today
now made a guess (based on just a parabola), if I don't post, tomorrow nobody will believe me I guessed today (in case I did):
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AssassinsMace

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Researchers at the Toronto-based AI platform BlueDot identified COVID-19 on Dec. 31 just hours after local officials in Wuhan,
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, reported the city's first diagnoses, but it took the Chinese government weeks to make an official announcement.

They're lying. I first read about this mysterious virus going around in China about mid-December. I can't read Chinese so I have to go by translation and you know how horrid internet translation of Chinese can be. I don't know how long it was being reported in China before that. I was listening to a radio talk show a couple weeks ago and some guy calls in acting like he's astute in all things China and says he personally hasn't seen Xi Jinping out in public comforting the masses. Did he read that in an article I saw accusing Xi Jinping of that and made it out he personally keeps up with the news in China? Americans could care less about what happens in other countries. That's why foreign policy is not important ever in Presidential debates. Americans don't give a crap just like they didn't care to know about coronavirus until it threatened them. So the date they've been saying is the first time China came out publicly with the coronavirus is actually the date they just bothered to know about it.
 

OppositeDay

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They're lying. I first read about this mysterious virus going around in China about mid-December. I can't read Chinese so I have to go by translation and you how horrid internet translation of Chinese can be. I don't know how long it was being reported in China before that. I was listening to a radio talk show a couple weeks ago and some guy calls in acting like he's astute in all things China and says he personally hasn't seen Xi Jinping out in public comforting the masses. Did he read that in an article I saw accusing Xi Jinping of that and made it out he personally keeps up with the news in China? Americans could care less about what happens in other countries. That's why foreign policy is not important ever in Presidential debates. Americans don't give a crap just like they didn't care to know about coronavirus until it threatened them. So the date they've been saying is the first time China came out publicly with the coronavirus is actually the date they just bothered to know about it.

Yes the existence of COVID-19 was publicly announced by Wuhan health authority on Dec 31. As I mentioned earlier in the thread in the same announcement the health authority also advised the public to wear masks and avoid gathering in enclosed spaces.

The journalists are not necessarily lying though. My guess is that they believed that the Chinese government must have covered up the outbreak, so instead of fact-checking they just generated 'facts' from their assumption of a cover-up.
 
searched for early reports Feb 2, 2020
34 minutes ago
... didn't find anything newer than

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В Китае распространяется неизвестная пневмония
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and
Published on: 12/31/2019 - 07:32
China investigates pneumonia epidemic for links to SARS: state media
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meaning no MSM info before New Year's Eve
 

AssassinsMace

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Yes the existence of COVID-19 was publicly announced by Wuhan health authority on Dec 31. As I mentioned earlier in the thread in the same announcement the health authority also advised the public to wear masks and avoid gathering in enclosed spaces.

The journalists are not necessarily lying though. My guess is that they believed that the Chinese government must have covered up the outbreak, so instead of fact-checking they just generated 'facts' from their assumption of a cover-up.


When a journalist, bad reporting is equivalent to lying. Did they ever hear of fact checking?
 

Chish

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Excuse my ignorance. I can understand panic buying for face masks, food, and even condom and other birth control devices. But bathroom tissues ?!
Because they are scarce. Some made in Australia. Even that depends on supply chains. Mostly all manufactured products are imported. Australian economy is based on exports of raw materials and services such as hospitality, tourism, retails, health care, education etc. With international logistics at extremely low level and Chinese workers still staying at home Aussie get nervous. It's not just toilet tissues, every daily necessities are affected. Thus the rush. Even the Australian government is now talking of stocking up medical supplies due world shortages. Haven't done yet, just waking up to reality.
 
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