Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


taxiya

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From the new your post. It's claiming China is pushing the idea that Covid 19 started in Italy.

China suggests Italy may be the birthplace of COVID-19 pandemic

China is using a new study about the early, hidden spread of coronavirus in Italy to cast doubt on the firmly held assumption that the Asian nation was the birthplace of the pandemic, according to reports.

Officials in Beijing are pushing a new study that suggests the contagion may have been spreading in the European nation as early as September — three months before it was confirmed to be spreading in the long-assumed epicenter in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the Times of London noted.

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Hmm, does anybody need a push or push when the data is clear to be seen? On the contrary in front of the data, "Not pushing" the new finding by Nypost or the like would be hiding truth. Of course we know Nypost and BBC alike who wish everybody else to NOT to see the new finding, forget it quickly.
 
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taxiya

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I think the risk of negative effects are low for mRNA vaccines as with subunit vaccines.

The biggest issue I can see would be loss of immunity and mutations of the virus itself.

It's really risk-benefit analysis. 1% mortality rate + cost to human life from economic damage is worth it based on the results they've shown so far.



I can think of some crazy ass scenario like the sequence gets integrated into the genome, but even then we have a good grasp of potential risks based on past gene therapy studies.
I agree with you. And even the highlighted scenario is almost impossible because it is RNA based from another article I read. A DNA based vaccine has higher chance of that effect. So RNA based is the safest in that regard. I would agree with this assessment based on my limited knowledge of the function of RNA.
 

Sardaukar20

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India's underreporting of deaths is not helping India at all. As cemeteries fill up, people are getting complacent and government is loosening restrictions. The number of daily new cases and deaths are now about half as it was back in Sept. But this false sense of victory over Covid-19 is surely going to drive up the numbers again. What's most tragic is that its always the poor and downtrodden that suffers the most, while the BJP leaders and the upper classes celebrate 'victory'.
 

Sardaukar20

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A documentary by CNA about the suffering of the poor in India's Covid-19 crisis. Its long, but is worth the watch.

Basically this documentary highlights the suffering of the poorest people in India go through during the Covid-19 outbreak in India. Indirectly it shows the inhumanity of the BJP government towards the poorest people in India. Sanju Verma, a BJP spokesperson is interviewed in this documentary. She is a typical disgusting BJP sociopathic propaganda loudspeaker. She does nothing but arrogantly boasts about Modi's 'heroism' while shooting down criticisms with vicious contempt.

There are a few highlights in this documentary:
1) A desperately poor mother could barely afford to care for her sick daughter. That sick daughter then contracted Covid-19 and died from complications. It looks like there is negligible government assistance for health care for the poor.
2) As incomes evaporated, some of the desperately poor were conned into slavery. Slavery in India in 2020, yeah think about that.
3) The migrant workers in the cities lost their jobs overnight when the 'Great Indian Lockdown' was imposed. Everyone knew the story of their great migration back to their home villages. Still, they found more poverty there and had to endure it. When things opened up and these guys returned to the cities, their jobs never returned. It has become a triple whammy for them.
4) The desperately poor are also in debt with loan sharks. When the economy tumbled thanks to BJP's 'great management', many committed suicide.

Covid-19 is perhaps the ultimate test of governance. It has ruthlessly exposed the weaknesses and incompetence of the worse governments in the world. First USA, then Brazil, and now India. And some people still wanna compare India favorably with China? First, the Covid-19 response in both countries are nowhere near comparable. Second, just contrast the poverty alleviation efforts of the two countries. China in 2020 is on the verge of eradicating poverty. While India in 2020, we have to ask if its really serious about poverty alleviation. To me, it looks as if the BJP government is more than happy to perpetuate poverty. How dare they dream about leading India to compete against, and eventually defeat China? Superpower India 2020? Disgusting!
 

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We about to see what would have happened in China had LNY shutdown not occur
The only hope now for the U.S. is the vaccines.

Looking at the progression of the infection curve, without the vaccines proving to be working and effective, the entire population of the U.S. could be in danger of being infected in a year's time. That is assuming the worst-case scenario where herd immunity is not going to slow down the infection rate.
 
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