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bomberman

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The impact of Covid19 on the poor in Asia.

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AndrewS

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Hi Temstar,

They losing viewers, they're discredit outfit, parroting the same message people will question your motive. You want your propaganda to be effective it must have a certain truth in it, not actually lies and people are not stupid. That's why China need to open more to be understood, no need to spend a lot of money for PR purposes, actual experience and people interaction is the best way to go.
WSJ is a financial newspaper.
They have to report reality, otherwise their readers start losing very large amounts of money because they haven't been correctly informed.

I have noticed that when compared to the London Financial Times, the WSJ has an irrational anti-government intervention, anti-China and anti-Communist ideological viewpoint.
 

plawolf

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WSJ is a financial newspaper.
They have to report reality, otherwise their readers start losing very large amounts of money because they haven't been correctly informed.
Well actually not! It is usually only pretentious wannabes who read publications like the WSJ/FT/Economist thinking that will put them at the same level as top boardroom shot-callers.

But true industry and boardroom bosses don’t read papers or magazines for their market intelligence, they have whole departments of specialists and analysts doing real hard nosed research for that.

If any company CEO bases major decisions on what the WSJ or FT says over their own analysts, they deserve to loose huge amounts of money.

I have noticed that when compared to the London Financial Times, the WSJ has an irrational anti-government intervention, anti-China and anti-Communist ideological viewpoint.
Which is the true reason for the existence of these publications.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Well good news from Brazil
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Brazil's Butantan says tests show vaccine by China's Sinovac is safe

Mon, October 19, 2020, 11:25 AM CDT

BEIJING/SAO PAULO (Reuters) - An experimental vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech appeared to be safe in providing protection against the COVID-19 disease caused by the new coronavirus, preliminary results of a late stage clinical trial conducted in Brazil showed on Monday.
Sinovac is the first drugmaker to disclose late stage trial results, putting China ahead in attempts to develop a coronavirus vaccine to fight against a pandemic that has killed over 1 million people globally.
Sao Paulo's Butantan Institute, one of Brazil's leading biomedical research centers that is carrying out the Phase 3 tests, said the vaccine called Coronavac proved to be safe after its two doses were applied to 9,000 volunteers.
But Butantan director Dimas Covas said data on how effective the vaccine is in protecting people against the new coronavirus will not be released until it has been tested on all of the 15,000 volunteers in expanded trials.

Sao Paulo state health secretary Jean Gorinchteyn said the vaccines appeared to produce protective anti-bodies. The state is hoping to obtain regulatory approval for Coronavac by the end of the year to start inoculating its population early in 2021.
Sinovac really needed Brazil as a testing ground since it has been one of the global hotbeds of the virus, although cases are 43% off their peak of nearly 70,000.
Brazil has reported more than 5.2 million COVID-19 cases since the pandemic began, the world's third most affected country after the United States and India.
 

AndrewS

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Well actually not! It is usually only pretentious wannabes who read publications like the WSJ/FT/Economist thinking that will put them at the same level as top boardroom shot-callers.

But true industry and boardroom bosses don’t read papers or magazines for their market intelligence, they have whole departments of specialists and analysts doing real hard nosed research for that.

If any company CEO bases major decisions on what the WSJ or FT says over their own analysts, they deserve to loose huge amounts of money.
You're looking at the wrong market.
There are only a handful of large organisations who have departments of specialists and analysts with China expertise.
That's not a lot of readers.

In comparison, the average hedge fund only has 15-29 employees and manages $290million.
Call it 400,000 employees and associated professionals, with $1.6 trillion in assets under management.

They don't have whole departments of specialists and analysts as you put it, and would rely on mainstream financial media to keep abreast of major developments outside their specific areas.

The same applies to many other organisations.

During this pandemic, the failure of Western mainstream financial media to accurately cover China has cost their readers billions.
They are part of the echo chamber which has lulled many in the West into thinking there is no way to completely defeat the pandemic like China has.

Which is the true reason for the existence of these publications.
It's more about the WSJ supporting the stance that government intervention is bad (which the Chinese experience frequently contradicts)

If the US government got more involved, there would be stronger consumer and buyer protection regulations against many of the unethical (but profitable) practices that go on.
 

plawolf

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You're looking at the wrong market.
There are only a handful of large organisations who have departments of specialists and analysts with China expertise.
That's not a lot of readers.

In comparison, the average hedge fund only has 15-29 employees and manages $290million.
Call it 400,000 employees and associated professionals, with $1.6 trillion in assets under management.

They don't have whole departments of specialists and analysts as you put it, and would rely on mainstream financial media to keep abreast of major developments outside their specific areas.

The same applies to many other organisations.

During this pandemic, the failure of Western mainstream financial media to accurately cover China has cost their readers billions.
They are part of the echo chamber which has lulled many in the West into thinking there is no way to completely defeat the pandemic like China has.



It's more about the WSJ supporting the stance that government intervention is bad (which the Chinese experience frequently contradicts)

If the US government got more involved, there would be stronger consumer and buyer protection regulations against many of the unethical (but profitable) practices that go on.
What do you think those 15-29 employees at hedge funds actually do? Making trades isn’t their main job, that’s literally just a few keystrokes these days. Their main job is to do the research to determine which trades to make, and reading mainstream newspapers or magazines most certainly does not come close to covering it.

I’m not sure where you are getting all these lost billions from. Do not make the mistake in assuming that just because the stock market falls overall that people aren’t making money.

The hedge funds rarely loose money, its the little guys who base their decisions on newspapers and magazines gets wiped out.

Hedge fund managers will pay attention to mainstream newspapers and magazines to see what the sheeple have been programmed to think, and then they can take advantage of knowing what those people are likely to do to take them for all they got.
 

siegecrossbow

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Cooper goes after Trump for bashing Fauci on leaked tapes

CNN’s Anderson Cooper rolls the tape on leaked audio between President Trump and staffers where the president is heard bashing Dr. Fauci.

The die is cast. Even if Trump strolls down Central Park and chokes a hooker until she dies from asphyxiation his hard core fans will still vote for him, and vice versa.
 

bomberman

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The die is cast. Even if Trump strolls down Central Park and chokes a hooker until she dies from asphyxiation his hard core fans will still vote for him, and vice versa.
I agree. US politics had become so polarize that both Republican and Democratic will vote with party lines, even though the candidate may not qualify to hold office. Even if Biden win, I don't think his winning percentage will be greater then 10% in popular votes.
 

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