Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

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Hendrik_2000 said:
I must be very humiliating experience White house the gleaming castle on the hill is now Covid hot spot. All of the joint chief are now infected except 1

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A little correction. The joint chiefs are not infected yet. They are quarantined because the vice commandant of the Coast Guard has been infected. None of the joint chiefs has been tested positive so far.
 
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bajingan said:
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Again trump threatened China, saying China will pay a big price for what they have done to the us
I wonder what kind of price is he talking about? More economic sanctions, military provocations?
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Election stunt.

One or tow North Korean type stunts would have put it in it's place. But china wants stability.
 
solarz

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taxiya said:
Don't forget that China quickly banned consumption of exotic animals, banned farming of wild animals (anything that is not kind of beef, chicken, pork etc.) EVEN though there is no 100% proof that farming wild animals are the root cause of corona virus jumped into Human this time.

Is it mainly because Chinese government is afraid of foreign blackmailing? Or it is a "better not to" precaution measure against high risk eating practice EVEN IF it is eventually proven that consuming wild animals are "innocent"? I believe the latter being the motivation.

On the one hand we should not blindly follow the western narrative that COVID-19 started in Wuhan. But on the other hand, certain eating habit in certain part of China is VERY risky (also uncivilized). If it is not 2013, it could be 2019, if it is not 2019, it could be 2020, risk is not certain to happen at a specific time, but is certain to happen some time.

The argument is similar to "for or against wearing face mask", even WHO stated "no evidence to mandate wearing mask" in the early days. We (Chinese) were laughing at the westerners demanding test results to prove "mask is efficient". Now shall we argue about proof of "eating wild animal carries high risk of getting virus"? The risk is there although not 100%, just like the mask is protective although not 100%.
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We don't know how long such a ban will last though, it could simply be a temporary measure.

The problem with a banning of farming "wild" animals is what species are you talking about, exactly? For example, China farms minks and foxes for fur, there's even a cockroach farm:

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If those farms are allowed to continue operation, then what's the logic in banning the farming of other similar species?
 
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solarz said:
We don't know how long such a ban will last though, it could simply be a temporary measure.

The problem with a banning of farming "wild" animals is what species are you talking about, exactly? For example, China farms minks and foxes for fur, there's even a cockroach farm:

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If those farms are allowed to continue operation, then what's the logic in banning the farming of other similar species?
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The ban was " 全国人大常委会关于全面禁止非法野生动物交易、革除滥食野生动物陋习、切实保障人民群众生命健康安全的决定 " by the NPC. The details are implemented by provinces. I don't know if the inclusions are different from place to place or not. But the ban is going to stay until NPC changes its mind which is very unlikely. NPC decisions are laws and won't be easily changed.

Two key points
  1. 全面禁止非法野生动物交易, fully banning on illegal wild animal business transaction.
  2. 革除滥食野生动物陋习, eradicate eating wild animal.
Regarding the species, fox and minks are certainly banned for eating according to the 1st point. Their farming for fur is probably allowed since the wording in 2nd point says "illegal" meaning there can be legal business transaction .

The cockroach farm is the same. If it is for purpose other than eating, it is fine. But if it is detected of spreading disease, it can be turned illegal the next day.

The ban is focused on farming wild animals for eating (2nd point). The 1st point also leaves room for banning anything in an ad-hoc manner because legal and illegal are defined by detailed regulations (the list) which are made by either provincial government's decree (any day) or provincial people's congress (any month during their standing committee's monthly session).
 
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