Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


supercat

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I see the psyop against China is quite successful in the U.S. This psyop against a particular nation, in this case China, is probably one of the most ruthless one in the U..S. history in peace time. Mistakes were made during China's initial response. But they were due to confusion, the so-called "fog of war". They were not deliberate cover-ups. I think the officialdom in the U.S. knows this point very well. But they choose to disregard the fact completely, and instead engaging in vicious attacks against China.

The Fable of the Chinese Whistleblower
The more the United States struggles with the ravages of COVID-19, the more President Donald Trump and his Republican Party will blame China. The facts hardly matter, as their exploitation of the tragic case of Wuhan doctor Li Wenliang shows: If Trump and the GOP think a conspiracy theory will win votes, they will run with it.

NEW HAVEN/HONG KONG – Public opinion in the United States pins the blame for the COVID-19 pandemic squarely on China. After all, that’s where the virus started. And President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have fanned the flames by accusing China of covering up the outbreak and knowingly allowing the novel coronavirus to spread.

But their supposed smoking gun, the tragic fate of the heroic whistleblower, Li Wenliang, fires only blanks.

Li, a doctor, was purportedly silenced and chastised by Chinese officials for warning on December 30, 2019, about a new virus in the Wuhan hospital where he worked. When it became evident that he was on to something serious – so serious, in fact, that it ultimately killed him – the Chinese government changed its tune and celebrated Li’s bravery. If only that had happened sooner, the argument goes, the world would have avoided this horrific pandemic. But that’s not what happened. Li was a courageous young man. His actions, however, were relatively unremarkable. Indeed, his role has been distorted without regard for fact.

The first Chinese doctor to report a new virus was not Li, but Zhang Jixian, the 54-year-old director of the respiratory and intensive care departments at the Hubei Provincial Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine,
also located in Wuhan. On December 27, three days before Li’s actions, Zhang diagnosed a family of three suffering from a viral pneumonia of unknown type and immediately submitted a report to her hospital, which, in turn contacted the Wuhan Health Commission on December 29.

Contrary to the Western narrative, the initial response of local authorities was prompt, albeit not without error. Facts and dates are important here. One day later, on December 30, the Wuhan Health Commission sent an urgent warning to all medical institutions under its jurisdiction about the outbreak of a mysterious new pneumonia.

Within hours, the central government dispatched an expert working group from the National Health Commission to conduct on-site investigations and organize a potential epidemic response. The team arrived early the next morning, December 31, and by 1 p.m. that day, the Wuhan Health Commission issued a public announcement about 27 pneumonia cases of unknown origin. The warning added that there was “so far no discovery of cases of obvious human-to-human transmission or infection of medical workers” – a mistake that would haunt China. (Mistake was made, but it was not cover-up.)

Following standard protocols for infectious diseases, the World Health Organization was informed immediately on December 31. The WHO’s Disease Outbreak News acknowledges receiving a report that day “… of cases of pneumonia of unknown etiology (unknown cause) detected in Wuhan City.” In other words, the WHO sounded a global alert only two days after Zhang’s hospital filed its initial report.

Li, an ophthalmologist, was not trained to diagnose complex respiratory diseases. He and a few other doctors probably saw the December 30 urgent notification from the Wuhan Health Commission. Out of understandable concern, they sent instant messages to friends a little before 6 p.m. that day, warning of a potential outbreak.

The message went viral. Local police then came in, having tracked Li’s warning through China’s notorious Internet surveillance. Yes, the police reprimanded Li on January 1 for spreading a rumor, and he signed a “paper of admonishment” on January 3. But this is not as disturbing as it may seem. At that point, no one, including Zhang and Li, had any insight into the true nature of the disease. Nor did the Wuhan police, who were understandably concerned about seemingly alarmist messages. But Li was not arrested or otherwise punished for rumormongering. Unfortunately, Li died of the coronavirus on February 6, the same day Zhang was officially honored as the real whistleblower.

So where is the smoking gun? After testing a stricken family for known viruses, all Zhang knew was that this ailment was different and sounded the alarm, which was enough to spur a quick response from officials at both the local and national levels.

The major early mistake – the failure to consider the possibility of human-to-human transmission – was a judgment error (again, not a cover-up), which probably reflected an under-reporting of cases. Sadly, that lesson has been lost on the US, which continues to suffer from a glaring deficiency of testing and a related undercounting of infections.

This is where the Trump administration’s conspiracy theory falls apart. COVID-19 is a novel coronavirus – it had never occurred before. Local Chinese officials were just as confused as anyone at the first signs of this outbreak. And they remained confused for some time. Why else would they have allowed street parties and holiday travel out of Wuhan prior to the Chinese Lunar New Year? When China’s national health officials did comprehend the virus’s highly contagious nature, Wuhan was shut down and sealed off, on January 23, 2020. Moreover, contrary to the Trump administration’s cover-up narrative, China did not deliberately keep US officials in the dark. The director of China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) briefed his US counterpart on January 3 – within a week of Zhang’s initial report.

While initial contact between the two CDCs was interrupted by the New Year holiday, the coordination between the two countries’ public health officials was much closer – and, as WHO Disease Outbreak documentation verifies, the time lags were considerably shorter – than is widely believed in the West.

The contrast with America’s response is striking. Whereas 27 days passed from Zhang’s initial report to the Wuhan shutdown on January 23, the US took exactly twice as long (54 days) to go from its first official diagnosis of COVID-19 (January 20) to Trump’s declaration of national emergency (March 13).

Li’s death plays a central part in the conspiracy theories that drive the anti-China discourse of Trump’s Republican Party. The “Corona Big Book,” a leaked 57-page GOP Campaign 2020 strategy document is, in fact, filled with distorted accounts of the so-called intimidation of Li. It makes no mention of Zhang.

Equally important to the GOP strategy is the charge that COVID-19 was spawned in a lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Notwithstanding the rejection of such allegations by US and other Western intelligence sources, leading scientists, and Anthony Fauci, America’s foremost expert on infectious diseases, the GOP’s mendacious claims persist.

Whether it’s the lab in Wuhan or the alleged martyrdom of Li, the implications are the same: the more the US struggles with the ravages of COVID-19, the more desperate Trump and his loyalists are to blame China. In a political strategy laced with conspiracy theories, facts matter little.
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Situation in the U.S. on May 22:
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Situation in China on May 22, excluding HK, Macau, and TW:
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localizer

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News relevant for many of us and our friends and families.

I have a feeling US wants to sabotage China's recovery.
 
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localizer

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Just another slander and drama queen moment from the US administration. Truly arrogant, malicious and abhorrent acts by the US. The US cannot be trusted.

"The Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) has approved the flight and charter plan for US airlines to China in June "

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BTW, Your post does not appear on the latest activities. Wonder why?
Does it now?

Ah it was some privacy settings :p.
 

Dolcevita

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More than 100 countries, including China, have signed the agreement proposed by the EU to investigate the source of the Covid-19 globally. Why does the United States refuse to sign the agreement?

Ridzwan Abdul Rahman

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May 21, 2020



The probable reason is that the US does not want to be investigated.

If an investigation were to be carried out to find the origin of the virus, the US must be investigated together with China. Participants at the Wuhan military games last October should be asked to provide information. Many of the athletes, from France, Spain, Italy, Sweden and other countries reported being ill with what appeared to be COVID-19 symptoms. ( Coronavirus may have been spreading since Wuh... | Taiwan News )

France could provide some evidence, because a team of researchers in the city of Colmar in northeastern France announced in a release recently that it had identified two X-rays, from Nov. 16 and Nov. 18, showing symptoms consistent with the novel coronavirus. ( New evidence in race to find France’s COVID-19 'patient zero' ) The Wuhan games were held in October. There is a possibility that these November French infections originated from the athletes who returned from Wuhan after the games.

Before the above infections, five US athletes became sick and were taken to an infectious disease clinic in Wuhan. Some people claim it was malaria but that does not make sense because there has been no malaria infections in China for a long time. To suddenly have five cases - all Americans - is hard to believe. China has asked the US to provide the medical records of these 5 athletes but to no avail. US urged to release health info of military athletes who came to Wuhan in October 2019

According to Israel, US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the coronavirus outbreak in China last November, at a time when China was not even aware of its existence. Could the five sick athletes be the reason the US knew? US alerted Israel, NATO to disease outbreak in China in November — TV report

In March this year a group of European universities did a research on the spread of SARS-CoV-2 and concluded that it started in either Europe or US, then spread to China, then spread again to Europe and US. They wrote:

In a phylogenetic network analysis of 160 complete human severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-Cov-2) genomes, we find three central variants distinguished by amino acid changes, which we have named A, B, and C, with A being the ancestral type according to the bat outgroup coronavirus. The A and C types are found in significant proportions outside East Asia, that is, in Europeans and Americans. In contrast, the B type is the most common type in East Asia. (ttps://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2020/04/07/2004999117.full.pdf)

The Fort Detrick military laboratory in Maryland, that handled high-level disease-causing material, was ordered by the US to close down in July 2019. An independent investigation should be conducted to find out the real reasons for closure.

According to estimates by the CDC, the seasonal flu that started in September last year has infected over 30 million US citizens, causing more than 20,000 deaths. Head of CDC, Robert Redfield, admitted in March this year that some coronavirus-related deaths have been found posthumously that were previously thought to be flu-related.

So, if an independent investigation is to be carried out to determine the origin of SARS-CoV-2, the US too should be investigated, together with China.


Or it could be in Wuhan already in October but less transmittable. And all those athletes gone there and caught it.

Correct. That is the purpose of the investigation of the host along with the participating countries.

US, along with co-conspirator Australia, wants a sham investigation, and not a scientific and fair investigation. This dilutes the lessons to be learned from any WHO investigation.

Essentially the Australian sham investigation wants to investigate all the American initiated conspiracy theory, but all evidence suggesting American origin are just "conspiracy theory" not worth investigating?

WHO investigation is still lacking credibility until US signs into the agreement. US needs to be transparent and fair.
 
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localizer

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Accroding to People's daily, 14million tests in Wuhan will be finished in two days & 90% of the population has been tested. People can get their results on WeChat.

I’d like to assume they pooled samples presumed to be negative. But we will have to wait and see.
 

Dolcevita

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