Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Anlsvrthng

Captain
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Did you even bother to read the introduction of the section where the table appeared?

"Disease Progression and Healthcare Demand Analyses of data from China as well as data from those returning on repatriation flights suggest that 40-50% of infections were not identified as cases. This may include asymptomatic infections, mild disease and a level of under-ascertainment. We therefore assume that two-thirds of cases are sufficiently symptomatic to self-isolate (if required by policy) within 1 day of symptom onset, and a mean delay from onset of symptoms to hospitalisation of 5 days. The age-stratified proportion of infections tat require hospitalisation and the infection fatality ratio (IFR) were obtained from an analysis of a subset of cases from China . "

The middle Italy was typo : ) That should be China.


If you bother you can read further :


In the UK, this conclusion has only been reached in the last few days, with the refinement of estimates of likely ICU demand due to COVID-19 based on experience in Italy and the UK (previous planning estimates assumed half the demand now estimated) and with the NHS providing increasing certainty around the limits of hospital surge capacity.

So, the original UK action was based on the Chinese numbers, and as they received the Italian numbers the UK had to change the strategy dramatically.

If the explanation can't be the different testing then other explanations :
-china feeded false data about the number of intensive cases
-any other idea ?
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Virus know no boundary, race or culture It will travel everywhere
March 19 marked the first time that China has recorded zero new domestic cases of COVID-19 since the country implemented strict and sweeping quarantine measures to contain the spread of the virus. Decisive measures bring China one step closer to the end of the battle against the new coronavirus. Meanwhile, every country is now testing its own approach to beat this common enemy.
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Hendrik_2000

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Italy’s Coronavirus Death Toll Surpasses That of China
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March 19, 2020, 12:57 PM CDT

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The death toll from Wuhan coronavirus in Italy has surpassed the number of reported deaths in China, marking a new milestone in the coronavirus pandemic.
Italy reported 427 new deaths from the coronavirus on Thursday, with a total of 3,405 to China’s 3,245, according to
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Italy now has 41,035 confirmed cases of coronavirus. The country remains on lockdown with travel restrictions between provinces as authorities struggle to contain the spread of the illness.
Most of Italy’s cases are centered in the country’s northern Lombardy region, home to the city of Milan. Videos shot by townspeople in Bergamo, near Milan, showed Italian soldiers arriving in a column of military vehicles to remove the bodies of coronavirus victims. Bergamo’s cemeteries did not have the capacity for all the bodies.
Italy’s government is considering further measures to reduce the amount of time spent outside their homes.
“I hope there will soon be measures to restrict people jogging or going out for walks,”
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Luca Zaia, the governor of the Veneto region neighboring Lombardy. “I’m sorry about that but the alternative is intensive care, hospitalization and contagion.”
Meanwhile, China on Thursday reported zero new cases of the coronavirus in the outbreak’s epicenter of Wuhan. However, the country’s number of reported cases has come under scrutiny as the Chinese Communist Party has restricted foreign and domestic journalists in their coverage of the outbreak.
On Wednesday China announced the expulsion of all American reporters for the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Post from mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau. The U.S. National Security Council
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the move.
“The Chinese Communist Party’s decision to expel journalists from China and Hong Kong is yet another step toward depriving the Chinese people and the world of access to true information about China,” the NSC said in a statment posted on Twitter. “The United States calls on China’s leaders to refocus their efforts from expelling journalists and spreading disinformation to joining all nations in stopping the Wuhan coronavirus.”
 

localizer

Colonel
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Mohsin77 believes government and people have been overreacted to this virus. And many policies and restrictions would cost great harm to economy which mean many people would suffer and lose their jobs. Looking at Italy, I can't say I agree with Mohsin77.

@Mohsin77 brother we can determine that once this is all over and see how every country performed.

China lost lots of healthcare workers to this, it would be devastating to any country's healthcare system if the # of infected is not reduced.

The disease also leaves lots of lung damage.

Also economy was going to crash one way or another. Maybe it was ok to crash it now so we can recover earlier.
 
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