Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


ougoah

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Seems to be slightly higher than 2%. This is also for people with access to pretty good healthcare, medicines, doctors, and clean drinking water. Obviously the infected at the moment would be treated more intensely and with greater resources than someone in another part of the world. I hope people are using those anti-viral facemasks and washing their hands!
 

localizer

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Seems to be slightly higher than 2%. This is also for people with access to pretty good healthcare, medicines, doctors, and clean drinking water. Obviously the infected at the moment would be treated more intensely and with greater resources than someone in another part of the world. I hope people are using those anti-viral facemasks and washing their hands!
Lol I hope u meant much lower than 2%.
 

ougoah

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Lol I hope u meant much lower than 2%.
I originally did mean higher because I read 200 known infected and out of this pool already 6 deaths. Missed the news about much greater numbers of infected. This larger number of infected could just be very early stages of infection where symptoms have shown and deaths/infected at the moment doesn't give us an accurate overall mortality rate of the virus. In any case, it seems to be around the 2% mark which is still a lot more than the average flu.
 

Anlsvrthng

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I originally did mean higher because I read 200 known infected and out of this pool already 6 deaths. Missed the news about much greater numbers of infected. This larger number of infected could just be very early stages of infection where symptoms have shown and deaths/infected at the moment doesn't give us an accurate overall mortality rate of the virus. In any case, it seems to be around the 2% mark which is still a lot more than the average flu.
Way higher than the chance of early death of the Chernobyl liquidators.

So by these numbers it is more safe to handle extremely radioactive materials by bare hands than to catch this flu.
 
the story in one picture:

An employee of Wuhan train station in Central China's Hubei Province observes passengers' body temperature on January 21 amid outbreak of the novel coronavirus pneumonia. Photo: China News Service
source is
Timely disclosure key to contain virus
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solarz

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I originally did mean higher because I read 200 known infected and out of this pool already 6 deaths. Missed the news about much greater numbers of infected. This larger number of infected could just be very early stages of infection where symptoms have shown and deaths/infected at the moment doesn't give us an accurate overall mortality rate of the virus. In any case, it seems to be around the 2% mark which is still a lot more than the average flu.
It's not 2% because there are only 300 confirmed cases. Confirmed cases means people sick enough to go to the hospital and get tested for the virus. Most people would just experience flu-like symptoms and get better after some rest.

Just for some context, in Canada, a country of only 37 million people, the regular flu causes about 3500 deaths every year.
 
it's happened:
First Wuhan coronavirus case confirmed in United States as authorities say threat to public from deadly pneumonia still ‘low’
  • First US case of Wuhan coronavirus reported in Washington state after man in his 30s was hospitalised in Seattle on Sunday
  • The man did not visit any of the markets connected to the virus while in Wuhan, nor did he know anyone ill, and only travelled from that area, authorities said

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localizer

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Any chance this new virus is man made? From a hostile state (you know who) designed to damage China economy and to isolate her citizens? Synthetic virulogy has advanced rapidly in recent years and the US has even been able to recreate polio virus from stratch, with their hostile intent towards China,i wouldnt put it past them to pull off this shit
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CIA Link to Cuban
Pig Virus Reported


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With at least the tacit backing of U.S. Central Intelligence Agency officials, operatives linked to anti-Castro terrorists introduced African swine fever virus into Cuba in 1971.
Six weeks later an outbreak of the disease forced the slaughter of 500,000 pigs to prevent a nationwide animal epidemic.
A U.S. intelligence source told Newsday last week he was given the virus in a sealed, unmarked container at a U.S. Army base and CIA training ground in the Panama Canal Zone, with instructions to turn it over to the anti-Castro group.
The 1971 outbreak, the first and only time the disease has hit the Western Hemisphere, was labeled the "most alarming event" of 1971 by the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization. African swine fever is a highly contagious and usually lethal viral disease that infects only pigs and, unlike swine flu, cannot be transmitted to humans.
All production of pork, a Cuban staple, halted, apparently for several months.
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ASF in biological warfare

After World War II experimentation, U.S. biological warfare was launched for offensive purposes. During the Cold War, ASF attracted great interest among anti-animal viruses, such as foot and mouth disease and cattle plague. By 1954, according to biowarfare historians, three viruses were available as agents for the destruction of food-bearing animals, including ASF.

Between the mid-1960s and late ‘90s, Cuba accused the United States of 10 biological warfare attacks following serious infectious disease outbreaks. None were proven conclusively, but several probably occurred. In 1971, pigs in Havana hog farm were diagnosed with ASF virus, which spread and caused half a million pigs to be slaughtered. Cuba suffered food shortage. The UN labeled the outbreak the "most alarming event" of 1971.

In 1977, the investigative journalists of Newsday, a Long Island daily, reported the virus was delivered from a US army base in the Panama Canal Zone; the site of joint Army-CIA covert operations in Latin America and the Caribbean.

Reportedly, anti-Castro saboteurs, backed by the CIA, had introduced ASF into Cuba six weeks before the outbreak to destabilize the economy. US Army denied involvement. Nevertheless, Norman Covert, historian of Fort Detrick, Maryland – the center of US biowarfare from the mid-50s to late ‘60s - has said that CIA had access to these laboratories. Later, a CIA document confirmed that biological warfare was used in efforts to destabilize Cuba.

Such efforts did not end with the Cold War. In 2000, neoconservatives behind the Bush administration flirted with the idea of “politically useful” ethnic bioweapons. That led Russia in 2007 to ban all exports of human bio samples.

In October 2018, Russian Defense Ministry claimed that the spread of viral diseases from Georgia, including African swine fever since 2007, could be connected to a US lab network. In the area, more than 70 Georgians had died in mysterious conditions, which Moscow attributed to US toxins or bioweapons. Russia believed bio agents violated the prohibition of biological weapons.

The lab network is part of the Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), which is funded by Pentagon’s Cooperative Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA). The CBEP labs are located in 25 countries, particularly in Eastern Europe, and the Middle East, Africa and Southeast Asia, including Philippines.

As Pentagon denied that US was developing biological weapons in the labs, Vladimir Shamanov, head of Russia’s State Duma Defense Committee, called for a “comprehensive evaluation” suggesting “joint inspections.” Yet, these multilateral demands have been ignored.

In its 2020 multimillion-dollar budget, the DTRA characterizes the program in Asia by its biosecurity functions, but also as “the partner of choice in a region competing against Chinese influence.” So while virus outbreaks operate across borders, multilateral cooperation is shunned for geopolitics.

The devils can try whatever they want but they underestimate the endurance and resilience of the Chinese people.
 

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