why bother trying to educate some guy that posts crackpot theories from some random unknowns when there's plenty of high quality data and recommendations from actual doctors and scientists?
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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SteelBird
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Has influenza been a global pandemic and cause hundreds of millions of infection? You can stay maskless and unvaccinated. I don't care. but don't spread that theory here!
Even though you are the one angrily denouncing open debate on serious questions and deliberately dragging the thread off topic? Sounds like you are the fascist to me hon. Better write an actual response next time.
What does this have to do with my question? Absolutely nothing.
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solarz
Brigadier
Delta is already proving to be deadly to children:
PeoplesPoster
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There is no debate here. You are wrong.
So you think a disease that has become endemic in the rest of the world, that is MORE CONTAGIOUS than the flu, can be eradicated and that lockdowns are the best way to achieve this (despite near universal failure)?
Where is the proof for this outrageous assertion of yours? It defies all available evidence.
The UK has proven that universal vaccination is an effective means of living with corona, and the ONLY way the majority of the world can have both a functioning economy and a healthy population. Why continue to shill lockdowns when they clearly don't work in the rest of the world?
Attempts to demonstrate statistical significance of lockdown measures on case counts fail miserably. The data is massaged and overfitted, giving contrary results when more robust conditions are inputted into the model.
Literally fudged data lmao.
Literally fudged data lmao.
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Before the second wave in Canada I had opined that re-opening had to be tried, in the end it was a disaster, but cases were low at the time…
Now we have vaccines, and we are trying reopening again. Again, I don’t think it’s wrong…
Strict lockdowns can be avoided, just look at Hong Kong, indoor dining was never strictly banned.
Now one thing to recognize is that HK benefitted from mainland China’s shield since it is the only major border crossing besides the airport.
I think we have a few issues right now that complicate a general return to normalcy right now.
1. Vaccination is a lot of countries is very slow. This is especially true in the Asian countries where control was initially strong. Once vaccination rates are up in most of the world, we should be able to slow the spread. Once the spread has slowed, the vaccine development speed will tilt in our favour.
2. USA. The US in itself is a huge issue. The obvious primary reason is the amount of human traffic. The second is their media power and subsequent ability to spread asinine theories like vaccines containing nanorobots controlled by Bill Gates and George Soros, or drinking bleach, or masks will kill, etc.
Its no surprise that many of the most vaccinated countries have approved Chinese vaccines (UAE, Bahrain, Chile, Seychelles, Uruguay, Singapore etc.). The urgency to respond to this crisis should outweigh the politics.