Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

adiru

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Don't worry. This is simply a scientific discovery. People find new bugs, viruses, bacteria and yeast species, all the time. This is not another pandemic... No conspiracy theories...

What you have to worry is that we keep finding super bugs, i.e drug-resistant bacteria, in labs and hospitals around the world. If any of them start spreading, we are all toast. These bacteria cannot be killed by anything we have. This is why I keep insisting that no one should continue to use anti-bacterial detergents and soaps in everyday life. With these anti-bacterial stuff, you are literally helping these mutated and drug-resistant bacteria survive by killing their competition, the normal (drug-prone) and much more abundant cousins.
Back in early 2018 I developed nasty case of flu and deep lung infection that almost killed me. Tamiflu didn't help. Doctors had me on a Bactrim regimen that caused me to get fungal balanitis and I lost most of my healthy gut bacteria. Suffice it to say I eventually cured it myself using a portable nebulizer vaporizing subnanometer particles of bio-active sovereign silver. For balanitis it was recurring for a while and I switched to a natural Neosporin alternative called Curoxen that was basically oxygenated/ozonated olive oil.

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AZaz09dude

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You are correct, but the effect is much more than 5 to 1. Our last calculation using data from confined persons aboard cruise ships put it closer to 300 to 1. But ethnicity may not be the the primary factor; environment could be playing a much greater role which results in deficiencies of the immune system. China is living on what would be classified in the West as a hazardous waste dump. That is not supportive of a healthy immune system. The Chinese government also has a history of experimenting on its own population. It is interesting that China's build out of its 5G system was centered around Wuhan. Excessive microwave exposure is not supportive of it either.


"China has intentionally been dishonest about its infection, and death numbers. Following graphs produced from SARS, MERS, and every other infectious virus known to man show numbers that are astronomically higher. To put it bluntly China has been lying to the rest of the world, along with its own people. This has seriously impeded the response from other countries who may be exposed to the pathogen. The Chinese leadership need to be held up to the
I think you need to reread the title of this thread, bud. Especially the last 3 words of it.
 

Rettam Stacf

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More on Phase 2

Remember it was just one gentleman from Hongkong that started this chain reaction.

From Diamond Princess, with 3711 on board and quarantine in Yokohama.

"Another 65 people aboard the quarantined Diamond Princess cruise ship moored off Japan have been diagnosed with novel coronavirus, the health ministry said Monday, bringing the total number of known infections to 135."

"Test results from 103 people have now come out and 65 of them are confirmed positive for the new coronavirus," the ministry said in a statement.

How many more when tests done and results in on the rest of the 3711 remaining crew and passengers ?

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And we will get to see with "Full freedom of speech and press and glorious democratic values and democracy" will make all those sickness and death go away. Or the virus will spread and spread irregardless of free press and free speech and the full democratic values and Western Freedom so cherished by all those haters of China.

Cruise ships are the perfect environment for spreading virus. Just look at the frequency of Norovirus break out incidences among cruises departing from the US. Japan's quarantine of Diamond Princess probably caused more people to be infected than by putting all the passengers and crews inside a stadium and make them live in tents.
 

Chish

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Cruise ships are the perfect environment for spreading virus. Just look at the frequency of Norovirus break out incidences among cruises departing from the US. Japan's quarantine of Diamond Princess probably caused more people to be infected than by putting all the passengers and crews inside a stadium and make them live in tents.
Totally agree!
I travel twice in a large ferry and the sea conditions were not smooth with some waves. This caused the ship to move up and down with the waves. As a result of this movements, moist air was bubbling out of the toilet bowl, sink and shower drain holes in my room. The surrounding air was stinky even along the corridor. If this virus is spreading by air and feces, this would be the perfect environment. After this experience I lost all glamour of traveling on ship in the high sea.
 
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localizer

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I travel twice in a large ferry and the sea conditions were not smooth with some waves. This caused the ship to move up and down with the waves. As a result of this movements, moist air was bubbling out of the toilet bowl, sink and shower drain holes in my room. The surrounding air was stinky even along the corridor. If this virus is spreading by air and feces, this would be the perfect environment. After this experience I lost all glamour of traveling on ship in the high sea.

I think they just said it doesn't spread by aerosol. Droplets yes.
 

AndrewS

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I agree with Wuhan government/police , an ophthalmologist in this case can't raise the Ncov-2019 virus outbreak warning, if he was a pulmonologist or public health expert or contagious disease expert then Wuhan government should listen to him.
What he knew most was about eye, and eye was not the most important organ involved in this outbreak. ( yes maybe you can get infected through eye, but it is a very small portion in this outbreak ).
So every expert in medical should have his duty and responsibility.
I don't know about his colleagues' expert

But before he specialised as an opthalmologist, presumably he was in general medicine.
And flus/coronavirus/SARs is presumably a standard part of medical training, because winter coronavirus outbreaks happen every year and are really common.

And remember that this was a private wechat message which was reposted.
And that the Hubei public health experts and Beijng contagious disease experts got the human-to-human transmission part completely wrong.
 

manqiangrexue

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very impressive, even though I didn't mention you by name or quote any of your posts or even give any hints you were still able to realize you are the "clueless member" that I talked about,
Oh really? I didn't know you were talking about me; I thought it could be any number of the people who like my posts against yours or who post against yours. If you were talking to/about me, why don't you dare quote me or put my name in it? It's the year of the mouse but doesn't mean you gotta sneak around like one...
frankly I couldn't care less if you have no idea what countries I support & what countries I oppose,
Frankly, nobody cares what you support or oppose; we're just annoyed that every post you make here is either incorrect information about viruses in general or attempt to insult the Chinese president while pretending to stay apolitical. You have brought absolutely no value to any conversation because you have no expertise at anything.
in any case Chinese people have good IQ but that is just the average, some of the Chinese people's own IQ increases it while the IQ of other Chinese brings it down, I believe you are part of the latter.
I take that as a compliment from someone who's always wrong. You don't know how viruses work; you don't know the differences/similarities between influenza and coronavirus but yet you post so confidently about them so it's just par far the course that what you believe about someone who has a PhD in biological sciences is also the opposite of the truth. Everything here is way over your head. Maybe we should start a thread about colors and shapes, so it will be more on the level at which you can contribute... but basic ones like blue and square, not big kid ones like magenta or trapezoid.
 
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localizer

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Oh really? I didn't know you were talking about me; I thought it could be any number of the people who like my posts against yours or who post against yours. If you were talking to/about me, why don't you dare quote me or put my name in it? It's the year of the mouse but doesn't mean you gotta sneak around like one...

Frankly, nobody cares what you support or oppose; we're just annoyed that every post you make here is either incorrect information about viruses in general or attempt to insult the Chinese president while pretending to stay apolitical. You have brought absolutely no value to any conversation because you have no expertise at anything.

I take that as a compliment from someone who's always wrong. You don't know how viruses work; you don't know the differences/similarities between influenza and coronavirus but yet you post so confidently about them so it's just par far the course that what you believe about someone who has a PhD in biological sciences is also the opposite of the truth. Everything here is way over your head. Maybe we should start a thread about colors and shapes, so it will be more on the level at which you can contribute... but basic ones like blue and square, not big kid ones like magenta or trapezoid.


Man that guy says the most useless crap. " no idea what countries I support & what countries I oppose" "average, some of the Chinese people's own IQ increases it while the IQ of other Chinese brings it down"

In other news, sky is blue and hemorrhoids suck.
 
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