Congratulations China!

Thanks Jeff, yeah its hard to see but at least its something.. By the way I like your website Jeff.

-Someone sold us a picture of the so called "type 093", but I have my doubts (I'll find it later today and post it)

that pic doesnt prove anything, coulb be nessy as well

ger_mark said:

that pic doesnt prove anything, coulb be nessy as well

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That pic wasn't meant to prove anything. That's why I called it speculative. It's just specualtion, not proof.

ger_mark said:

that pic doesnt prove anything, coulb be nessy as well

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two type 93s have been launched already. whether the pic shows them is unclear.

Okay like I said this is a picture someone from another forum said was 093. I honestly dont know

MIGleader said:

two type 93s have been launched already. whether the pic shows them is unclear.

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Agreed.

MIGleader said:

two type 93s have been launched already. whether the pic shows them is unclear.

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That's what I thought also. I even read somewhere (Sorry, I don't remember where) one went on sea trials. hmmm. It would be nice to see a clear picture of it though. I mean, we got to see the Yuan SSK for cryin' out loud.

Sea Dog said:

That's what I thought also. I even read somewhere (Sorry, I don't remember where) one went on sea trials. hmmm. It would be nice to see a clear picture of it though. I mean, we got to see the Yuan SSK for cryin' out loud.

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The issue is that nuclear subs are considered strategic weapons, so there are more secrecy over them.

Gauntlet said:

Seeing all of the Victors has beeing taken out of action and have been replaced buy Akulas, Sierras and in the future, possible Graneys, I wouldnt call them realy good submarines.

Maybe for a first try (Chinas first, that is) maybe, but not in an upcoming war...

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Well, you're right. The Akula's definitely outclass Victor III's. But that doesn't mean the 093 designed at Victor III level is not going to be a credible nuclear sub. 093 clearly goes beyond what was built into the HAN SSN. China has learned alot about nuclear propulsion since the Han came into service.

@ tphuang - I agree with you. But I think once the 093's go through complete sea trials, we might get to see them. Well, that's the hope anyways.

It is indeed true that US navy has leased the Gotland class AIP submarine to train their ASW forces to find diesel-submarines. The status after the latest months is that US navy is having severe problems even finding it at all.... So to say that the US navy will be able to sink a AIP diesel-submarine after the training with the Swedish navy is ridicilus. It will instead show how hard it is to even find it at all before it finds you..




Some nice shots of Yankees looking for our sub