COMAC C919

sunnymaxi

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He dodged the reporter's question regarding short-term plan B. In other words, whilst the CJ1000 is on track, there appears to be NO plan B. As implied, on a positive note, as soon as the CJ1000 is ready, all roadblocks would be cleared as the CJ1000 appears to have hit no roadblock.
its obvious, there is no plan B regarding Engines.. its either LEAP or wait for CJ-1000A. fortunately domestic engine exceed expectations in testing. soon AECC will put engine on C919 for final evaluation.

CJ-1000A is at least a generation ahead in comparison with WS-20 machine.
 
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lcloo

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Here are some points for thought on completely new engine development.

For a new company with no prior experience, a 20-year development timeline for a turbofan engine capable of powering a 737-sized aircraft is ambitious—but not unreasonable, especially if the goal is to create something innovative and competitive.

Why 20 Years Might Be Acceptable​

  • High technical complexity: Designing a high-bypass turbofan engine for narrow-body jets like the 737 requires mastery of aerodynamics, thermodynamics, materials science, and manufacturing.
  • Certification hurdles: Meeting FAA or EASA standards is a massive undertaking, especially for a first-time developer.
  • Infrastructure building: A new company must build everything from scratch—R&D labs, testing facilities, supply chains, and skilled teams.
  • Funding cycles: Securing consistent investment over two decades is challenging and can slow progress.
  • Benchmarking against giants: Established players like CFM International (GE + Safran) and Pratt & Whitney took decades to reach their current capabilities.

Realistic Expectations​

Even industry veterans took 15–20 years to bring revolutionary engines like the GTF to market. For a newcomer, the timeline could stretch longer unless they:
  • Partner with experienced suppliers or OEMs
  • License existing technology
  • Focus on incremental innovation rather than radical breakthroughs
So yes—20 years is acceptable, especially if the company is aiming for certified, commercial-grade performance and not just a proof-of-concept. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.
 

sangye

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CJ-1000A is at least a generation ahead in comparison with WS-20 machine.
Can you elaborate on that? I thought the CJ1000A was more closely related to CFM56 and therefore older in design and technology, while the WS-20 was more novel and unproven design which is why they didn't consider it for the C919
 

THX 1138

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Can you elaborate on that? I thought the CJ1000A was more closely related to CFM56 and therefore older in design and technology, while the WS-20 was more novel and unproven design which is why they didn't consider it for the C919

Stop relying on Wikipedia. Or at least pay attention to the sources being cited by Wikipedia.
 

sunnymaxi

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Can you elaborate on that? I thought the CJ1000A was more closely related to CFM56 and therefore older in design and technology, while the WS-20 was more novel and unproven design which is why they didn't consider it for the C919
its actually opposite.

WS-20 is derived from WS-10's core which itself has connection with CFM56/F-110 Engines. WS-20 has BPR of 6.0

CJ-1000A is a clean-sheet design. with BPR is over 10.
 

Moonscape

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little correction.

production slowed down but not completely ground to halt.

6th C919 delivered on 29th July. and this is the same delivery pace as last year. it means they will probably deliver 13-15 units of C919 this year. 2nd half is always the speedy one for Chinese firms.

total Nine C909 delivered this year. project is very mature now. this aircraft delivery depend on the demand.
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i believe, uncertainty between US-China played the major role here. Engine halt too but later on deliveries resumed.

two things here.

1. there is readjustment happening in supply chain.

2. i think, COMAC will continue to produce 15-20 units of C919 until domestic engine become available.

i don't know how to post direct video on this forum but fortunately tphuang shared the interview of ''Zhang Yanzhong, Academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering''

CJ-1000A is not far away. certification process going smoothly.
Reminds me of the timeline of AVIC's other products.

LRIP while still dependent on foreign engines, full-speed ahead after domestic engines are ready.
 
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