And that’s fine. You have to learn how to walk before you can run and how to run faster before you can do a good long jump. Everyone wants China to just do long jumps for everything but you need a good foundation first before you do the big ambitious stuff. This is what China learned in the 90s and 2000s and it’s a strategy that’s so far worked in every sector it’s been tried in. Good industrial policy requires patience.
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COMAC C919
- Thread starter Deino
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These are political tasks for state-owned airliners, and the order is quite small compare to the large market
but its massive compared to civilian narrow bodies released in similar specs by other aviation companies that isn't the big two. prior to airbus aquisition, bombardier practically had to sell their C-series jets at massive loss for market triggering the Boeing lawsuit. Embraer as well didn't get as many initial orders for their jets as COMAC. I say COMAC already has a big boost from domestic support with its initial orders. As Latenlazy mentioned, 500 orders is completely fine. eventually domestic airlines (and maybe even some international airlines) will ramp up the order (either directly or through increased leaser demand) as COMAC gets their support infrastructure setup, C919 gets their certifications set and proliferated (certification in other nations are sure to come since CAAC has type certificate sharing agreements with many nations), and their operational history gets established (maybe even initial issues showing up getting solved)
of interesting note.
Aercap, one of the largest leasers in the world (based in ireland), also put some orders for the c919. most likely to be service chinese airlines but they would be the first "international" purchase of the C919 iirc haha. either or its them taking over GECAS's original order.
who knows, they may lease the c919 to an international airline instead. would be interesting and cool to see the c919 in service outside of china.
Aercap, one of the largest leasers in the world (based in ireland), also put some orders for the c919. most likely to be service chinese airlines but they would be the first "international" purchase of the C919 iirc haha. either or its them taking over GECAS's original order.
who knows, they may lease the c919 to an international airline instead. would be interesting and cool to see the c919 in service outside of china.
Ryan Airof interesting note.
Aercap, one of the largest leasers in the world (based in ireland), also put some orders for the c919. most likely to be service chinese airlines but they would be the first "international" purchase of the C919 iirc haha. either or its them taking over GECAS's original order.
who knows, they may lease the c919 to an international airline instead. would be interesting and cool to see the c919 in service outside of china.
Ryan Air C919. Oh dear god, if Ryan air ever gets C919, i hope COMAC put beefy landing gears on the 919.Ryan Air
483 orders have confirmed so far.but its massive compared to civilian narrow bodies released in similar specs by other aviation companies that isn't the big two. prior to airbus aquisition, bombardier practically had to sell their C-series jets at massive loss for market triggering the Boeing lawsuit. Embraer as well didn't get as many initial orders for their jets as COMAC. I say COMAC already has a big boost from domestic support with its initial orders. As Latenlazy mentioned, 500 orders is completely fine. eventually domestic airlines (and maybe even some international airlines) will ramp up the order (either directly or through increased leaser demand) as COMAC gets their support infrastructure setup, C919 gets their certifications set and proliferated (certification in other nations are sure to come since CAAC has type certificate sharing agreements with many nations), and their operational history gets established (maybe even initial issues showing up getting solved)
As you can see, CAAC is extremely strict with flight safety so every year quite a lot of narrow bodies will retire so its not so weird that there's so many order.
hahahaRyan Air C919. Oh dear god, if Ryan air ever gets C919, i hope COMAC put beefy landing gears on the 919.
Ryan has performed there interest in C919 many times for its priceIn June 2011, COMAC and Irish low-cost airline signed an agreement to co-operate on the development of the C919.
Ryan has performed there interest in C919 many times for its price
interest a decade ago is moot today unfortunately. and c919's price has gone up from the original claimed 50-60 million USD. especially after the pandemic, i don't think ryan air is that interested again unless they re-iterate it.
However, iirc, EASA is still pushing the type certification of the 919. Hoping it be like the ARJ21 where the EASA MRBR approval is released together with CAAC. (Due to cooperation) in this case, the 919's approval passes easily.
No its just a proof. If U are REALLY interested in COMAC and C919. You will know moreinterest a decade ago is moot today unfortunately. and c919's price has gone up from the original claimed 50-60 million USD. especially after the pandemic, i don't think ryan air is that interested again unless they re-iterate it.
However, iirc, EASA is still pushing the type certification of the 919. Hoping it be like the ARJ21 where the EASA MRBR approval is released together with CAAC. (Due to cooperation) in this case, the 919's approval passes easily.
No its just a proof. If U are REALLY interested in COMAC and C919. You will know more connections between C919 and Ryan Airinterest a decade ago is moot today unfortunately. and c919's price has gone up from the original claimed 50-60 million USD. especially after the pandemic, i don't think ryan air is that interested again unless they re-iterate it.
However, iirc, EASA is still pushing the type certification of the 919. Hoping it be like the ARJ21 where the EASA MRBR approval is released together with CAAC. (Due to cooperation) in this case, the 919's approval passes easily.