Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)


sndef888

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It's still far from certain what exactly is available for export. It's confirmed that negotiations are ongoing with Uruguay but again, the Uruguayan requirement for a radar is non-negotiable. They appear ready to buy used Western aircraft if the Chinese offer does not include radar. Supersonic performance may or may not be a requirement at this point.
Wait why is China denying a radar? It's not like such a small, past generation radar is susceptible to espionage
 

Grupo2

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When is the deadline? I didn't know Uruguay is looking for a new aircraft, seems obscured in the news cycle.
Uruguay has been looking for a replacement for its A-37 Dragonflies for quite a few years now but the problem has been finding something that fits within their limited budget - a visit by air force staff to China in 2016 came away with the impression that the l15 would be suitable.

There's no deadline that I'm aware of it's just been several years of ongoing talks and negotiations with possible suppliers
 

Grupo2

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Wait why is China denying a radar? It's not like such a small, past generation radar is susceptible to espionage
Don't think it's a case of denial - they would be glad to sell combat aircraft to a new customer in Latin America, it's just unclear what is available and being offered for export.

The Zambian aircraft appear to have a small radar in the SY-80 class, which would be good enough for Uruguayan requirements (detection and tracking of illegal drug flights from outside Uruguay)
 

Apache299

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Hey guys, i'm looking for estimates of how many of the JL-9s the Chinese air force is still flying? I think around 50 of them were delivered around 2011, but i ve been looking for updates on that plane or whether there has been any crashes etc. Any tips or suggestions? thanks!
 

Miragedriver

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Hey guys, i'm looking for estimates of how many of the JL-9s the Chinese air force is still flying? I think around 50 of them were delivered around 2011, but i ve been looking for updates on that plane or whether there has been any crashes etc. Any tips or suggestions? thanks!
I couldn’t find anything regarding the number of JL-9 in the Air Force (PLAAF). However, Naval Aviation has the following as of 2020:

20 JL-9H

16 JL-9G

Perhaps another member with better information can chime in.
 

lcloo

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Hey guys, i'm looking for estimates of how many of the JL-9s the Chinese air force is still flying? I think around 50 of them were delivered around 2011, but i ve been looking for updates on that plane or whether there has been any crashes etc. Any tips or suggestions? thanks!
There is no detail information on the nymber of JL9 in service, but we can use information from Huitong's Chinese Military Aviation to deduct a conservative minimum numbers.

The followings are the regiment/brigade/aviation university fleet serial numbers, assuming they operate 8 aircraft each (conservative minimum) :-
83X71 83X5X 78X2X 78X4X
4X8X 1X3X 3X2X 2X4X 1X1X

9 rejiment or brigade x 8 aircraft = 72 (assuming 8 aircraft per regiment/brigade etc)

If you go for the high end number of 24 aircraft per regiment/brigade, the number would be 9 X 24 = 216 aircraft.

However, some training regiment have a mixed fleet of JL9 and JJ7, so the real number is probably around 100 to 150 aircraft.
 

FireyCross

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Hi all,
Just wondered if there's any good sources for news on the CJ-7 single engine trainer project? Seems to have gone very quiet after the first test flights.
Thanks :)
 

plawolf

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There is no detail information on the nymber of JL9 in service, but we can use information from Huitong's Chinese Military Aviation to deduct a conservative minimum numbers.

The followings are the regiment/brigade/aviation university fleet serial numbers, assuming they operate 8 aircraft each (conservative minimum) :-
83X71 83X5X 78X2X 78X4X
4X8X 1X3X 3X2X 2X4X 1X1X

9 rejiment or brigade x 8 aircraft = 72 (assuming 8 aircraft per regiment/brigade etc)

If you go for the high end number of 24 aircraft per regiment/brigade, the number would be 9 X 24 = 216 aircraft.

However, some training regiment have a mixed fleet of JL9 and JJ7, so the real number is probably around 100 to 150 aircraft.

I would say the numbers are very likely to be significantly higher.

On top of dedicated training regiments, I have observed frequent mixed formations of J10+JL9 launches and see JL9s parted at dual use airports that also host J11s; so it looks like frontline units are also using them. Probably for a mix of generally increased stick time for pilots while limited wear and tear on frontline aircraft as well as DACT.
 

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