Chinese Soft Power and Media Discussion and Updates

name

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What the fuck did I just read?

You gotta stop pinning blame on others for your own failures & Your life sounds fucked up.
Dude, can you stop with your psycho analysis. You're completely off. Here's what I wrote:

"The latest thing is the Donbei floral patterns on men's clothing, I think. That stuff is gay looking. Not cool at all."

That's it. I didn't say anything about how it affects my life. It doesn't.

All my friends are asian and they are all jacked, and married or in a long term relationship - there is not one person I know personally who is an incel with a bowlcut
You associate successful Asian men with being jacked (or at least semi muscular). Also, you associate bowlcut hair with Asian incels. How are our views any different? Why attack me for stating the same obvious things that you already believe?

Let's try some other way to get the point across.

Replace Asian incel nerd bowlcut glasses types with lonely fat women. They are both suffering the same problem. They are physically unattractive to the opposite sex.

Imagine lonely fat women complain to me that they can't get dates and want my help.

I say ", No problem. I've helped other women succeed. Here's what you need to do. Get rid of highly processed food from your diet, eat healthy, do low stress exercises like bicycling / rowing for 20 minutes a day to burn calories, eat two meals a day to lower calorie intake, and check your hormones for problems. Do this for at least 6 months because weight loss takes time and it's easy to get discouraged." This is all logical and effective advice that works for most women.

Now, imagine that lonely fat woman attacks me with ", How dare you! That's fat shaming (deny the problem exists). A diet of Icecream, cookies, and pizza pockets are healthy. You are insecure and need to work on yourself. Your entire life is messed up (attacking the messenger). You want me to change my style to please other people. You are seeking approval. I don't need to change a damn thing. (maintaining the status quo AKA do not fix the problem)."

Of course, I'm pissed. I can see the woman throwing her life away due to misguided pride and she attacks me for giving useful advice.

Meanwhile, the people who are indifferent to her suffering or possibly malicious or possibly ignorant, tell her ", You go girl! Don't let anyone fat shame you. You are a beautiful 10/10. Everyone can be beautiful and succeed in their own unique way."

But we all know this is false. Fat women lose romantically. Everyone knows this.

What's the end result? The women's problems are unresolved. She continues to suffer. The pep talk sounds good, but it's harmful.

You can see the parallels between a lonely overweight woman rejecting useful advice and a prideful Asian rejecting useful advice, right? It's the same dynamic: They both deny the problem exists, attack the messenger, and maintain the self-defeating status quo.

Nothing China does makes a difference in my life unless they take over the nation I live in, which will never happen. If they get better at soft power / psychological warfare then it's good for China's defense. I get no direct benefit. If China ends white worship then Chinese people and especially young children are safe. I get no direct benefit. I'm not giving out this advice to "save myself". I handled my looks, money, and dating shortcomings on my own years ago. I don't tend to blame others for my results.
 
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coolgod

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Dude, can you stop with your psycho analysis. You're completely off. Here's what I wrote:

"The latest thing is the Donbei floral patterns on men's clothing, I think. That stuff is gay looking. Not cool at all."

That's it. I didn't say anything about how it affects my life. It doesn't.


You associate successful Asian men with being jacked (or at least semi muscular). Also, you associate bowlcut hair with Asian incels. How are our views any different? Why attack me for stating the same obvious things that you already believe?

Let's try some other way to get the point across.

Replace Asian incel nerd bowlcut glasses types with lonely fat women. They are both suffering the same problem. They are physically unattractive to the opposite sex.

Imagine lonely fat women complain to me that they can't get dates and want my help.

I say ", No problem. I've helped other women succeed. Here's what you need to do. Get rid of highly processed food from your diet, eat healthy, do low stress exercises like bicycling / rowing for 20 minutes a day to burn calories, eat two meals a day to lower calorie intake, and check your hormones for problems. Do this for at least 6 months because weight loss takes time and it's easy to get discouraged." This is all logical and effective advice that works for most women.

Now, imagine that lonely fat woman attacks me with ", How dare you! That's fat shaming (deny the problem exists). A diet of Icecream, cookies, and pizza pockets are healthy. You are insecure and need to work on yourself. Your entire life is messed up (attacking the messenger). You want me to change my style to please other people. You are seeking approval. I don't need to change a damn thing. (maintaining the status quo AKA do not fix the problem)."

Of course, I'm pissed. I can see the woman throwing her life away due to misguided pride and she attacks me for giving useful advice.

Meanwhile, the people who are indifferent to her suffering or possibly malicious or possibly ignorant, tell her ", You go girl! Don't let anyone fat shame you. You are a beautiful 10/10. Everyone can be beautiful and succeed in their own unique way."

But we all know this is a false. Fat women lose romantically. Everyone knows this.

What's the end result? The women's problems are unresolved. She continues to suffer. The pep talk sounds good, but it's harmful.

You can see the parallels between a lonely overweight woman rejecting useful advice and a prideful Asian rejecting useful advice, right? It's the same dynamic: They both deny the problem exists, attack the messenger, and maintain the self-defeating status quo.

Nothing China does makes a difference in my life unless they take over the nation I live in, which will never happen. If they get better at soft power / psychological warfare then it's good for China's defense. I get no direct benefit. If China ends white worship then Chinese people and especially young children are safe. I get no direct benefit. I'm not giving out this advice to "save myself". I handled my looks, money, and dating shortcomings on my own years ago. I don't tend to blame others for my results.
Why the hate against chubby girls ;)
 

name

Junior Member
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Why the hate against chubby girls ;)
Not hate. Just an example to illustrate a point. I hope it makes things clear because bringing up Asian men makes people very defensive and I sense that the actual message gets lost in the fog of emotions.
 

name

Junior Member
Registered Member
actually believed in "the shit" that was sold to Asians - of all stripe - about AMERICA being a meritocratic country and its roads paved with gold.
Wait. I think there's a term for this....

Soft power / psychological warfare....the very thing I've been warning about.

Before you reply back with the "iT WaS DuE To tHe wEsT'S HaRd pOwEr", go review the recent XHS tiktok refugee videos glazing China and shitting on usa. China has been a better place to live in than usa since about 10-15 years ago.

Ask yourself why Asians still get duped to moving to usa where life is worse.
 

tygyg1111

Captain
Registered Member
Dude, can you stop with your psycho analysis. You're completely off. Here's what I wrote:

"The latest thing is the Donbei floral patterns on men's clothing, I think. That stuff is gay looking. Not cool at all."

That's it. I didn't say anything about how it affects my life. It doesn't.


You associate successful Asian men with being jacked (or at least semi muscular). Also, you associate bowlcut hair with Asian incels. How are our views any different? Why attack me for stating the same obvious things that you already believe?

Let's try some other way to get the point across.

Replace Asian incel nerd bowlcut glasses types with lonely fat women. They are both suffering the same problem. They are physically unattractive to the opposite sex.

Imagine lonely fat women complain to me that they can't get dates and want my help.

I say ", No problem. I've helped other women succeed. Here's what you need to do. Get rid of highly processed food from your diet, eat healthy, do low stress exercises like bicycling / rowing for 20 minutes a day to burn calories, eat two meals a day to lower calorie intake, and check your hormones for problems. Do this for at least 6 months because weight loss takes time and it's easy to get discouraged." This is all logical and effective advice that works for most women.

Now, imagine that lonely fat woman attacks me with ", How dare you! That's fat shaming (deny the problem exists). A diet of Icecream, cookies, and pizza pockets are healthy. You are insecure and need to work on yourself. Your entire life is messed up (attacking the messenger). You want me to change my style to please other people. You are seeking approval. I don't need to change a damn thing. (maintaining the status quo AKA do not fix the problem)."

Of course, I'm pissed. I can see the woman throwing her life away due to misguided pride and she attacks me for giving useful advice.

Meanwhile, the people who are indifferent to her suffering or possibly malicious or possibly ignorant, tell her ", You go girl! Don't let anyone fat shame you. You are a beautiful 10/10. Everyone can be beautiful and succeed in their own unique way."

But we all know this is false. Fat women lose romantically. Everyone knows this.

What's the end result? The women's problems are unresolved. She continues to suffer. The pep talk sounds good, but it's harmful.

You can see the parallels between a lonely overweight woman rejecting useful advice and a prideful Asian rejecting useful advice, right? It's the same dynamic: They both deny the problem exists, attack the messenger, and maintain the self-defeating status quo.

Nothing China does makes a difference in my life unless they take over the nation I live in, which will never happen. If they get better at soft power / psychological warfare then it's good for China's defense. I get no direct benefit. If China ends white worship then Chinese people and especially young children are safe. I get no direct benefit. I'm not giving out this advice to "save myself". I handled my looks, money, and dating shortcomings on my own years ago. I don't tend to blame others for my results.

If our views are aligned, I'm not sure what you have to complain about.
In my eyes, all things are moving in the right direction; I am happy with past progress and I am very happy with current progress. Many things take time, however many of your posts seem like you want all the fruits now. This is the point I am trying to make.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Dude, can you stop with your psycho analysis. You're completely off. Here's what I wrote:

"The latest thing is the Donbei floral patterns on men's clothing, I think. That stuff is gay looking. Not cool at all."
And I said that people who complain that other clearly heterosexual people look gay instead of minding thier own business are actually overcompensating for their own shortcomings by pretending to be overly macho.
That's it. I didn't say anything about how it affects my life. It doesn't.


You associate successful Asian men with being jacked (or at least semi muscular). Also, you associate bowlcut hair with Asian incels. How are our views any different? Why attack me for stating the same obvious things that you already believe?

Let's try some other way to get the point across.

Replace Asian incel nerd bowlcut glasses types with lonely fat women. They are both suffering the same problem. They are physically unattractive to the opposite sex.

Imagine lonely fat women complain to me that they can't get dates and want my help.

I say ", No problem. I've helped other women succeed. Here's what you need to do. Get rid of highly processed food from your diet, eat healthy, do low stress exercises like bicycling / rowing for 20 minutes a day to burn calories, eat two meals a day to lower calorie intake, and check your hormones for problems. Do this for at least 6 months because weight loss takes time and it's easy to get discouraged." This is all logical and effective advice that works for most women.

Now, imagine that lonely fat woman attacks me with ", How dare you! That's fat shaming (deny the problem exists). A diet of Icecream, cookies, and pizza pockets are healthy. You are insecure and need to work on yourself. Your entire life is messed up (attacking the messenger). You want me to change my style to please other people. You are seeking approval. I don't need to change a damn thing. (maintaining the status quo AKA do not fix the problem)."

Of course, I'm pissed. I can see the woman throwing her life away due to misguided pride and she attacks me for giving useful advice.

Meanwhile, the people who are indifferent to her suffering or possibly malicious or possibly ignorant, tell her ", You go girl! Don't let anyone fat shame you. You are a beautiful 10/10. Everyone can be beautiful and succeed in their own unique way."

But we all know this is false. Fat women lose romantically. Everyone knows this.

What's the end result? The women's problems are unresolved. She continues to suffer. The pep talk sounds good, but it's harmful.

You can see the parallels between a lonely overweight woman rejecting useful advice and a prideful Asian rejecting useful advice, right? It's the same dynamic: They both deny the problem exists, attack the messenger, and maintain the self-defeating status quo.

Nothing China does makes a difference in my life unless they take over the nation I live in, which will never happen. If they get better at soft power / psychological warfare then it's good for China's defense. I get no direct benefit. If China ends white worship then Chinese people and especially young children are safe. I get no direct benefit. I'm not giving out this advice to "save myself". I handled my looks, money, and dating shortcomings on my own years ago. I don't tend to blame others for my results.
There are jacked/slim/fat/bowlcut successful people and jacked/slim/fat/bowlcut losers in every country. The reason you ever associated loser bowlcut with Asian/Chinese culture and jacked people with Western culture is because you have such poor resistance to maniuplation. China has had jacked people learning martial arts before Western civilization. Western countries celebrate Chinese weightlifting athletes when they don't have their own who are good enough.
Wait. I think there's a term for this....

Soft power / psychological warfare....the very thing I've been warning about.

Before you reply back with the "iT WaS DuE To tHe wEsT'S HaRd pOwEr", go review the recent XHS tiktok refugee videos glazing China and shitting on usa. China has been a better place to live in than usa since about 10-15 years ago.

Ask yourself why Asians still get duped to moving to usa where life is worse.
Ugh, why not just reread what I wrote? This is already explained. There is no soft power. There is just lag time and the lag time is uncertain from between power A overtakes power B and when that is recognized, mostly because it is done slowly and unevenly. 10-15 years ago, you could certainly not claim that Chinese people could afford more food than Westerners, which seems to be a chief complaint now. 10-15 years ago, our society was not full of superior gadgets and better cars but rather put on a pedistal Western ICE cars and iPhones. So yeah, it is all true development by hard power.

And speaking of the lag time from when the standard of life in China exceeds that of the US, it is still uncertain because even now, the work stress at certain levels is much higher in China than in the US, so still, many Chinese coders, etc... wish to work in America's 40 hours work week instead of China's 996 culture. So it is sometimes falty and often debatable even now to say that China's life quality has exceeded that of America's in all or most situations.

China's in no hurry to announce to the world when we surpass someone. The quiet chicken eats the most rice; we'd prefer that nobody see us as a threat so we could move and grow unharrassed. That's our culture, and when Westerners do find out about the areas we surpassed them in via avenues like XHS, it makes it all the more impressive that we never bragged or shouted about it. As a matter of fact, this contrast has led many Americans on XHS to overestimate China, thinking that we are a utopia where everyone is happy, stress free, and highly productive.

This is our way; it is for smarter people who like to listen and think more than they talk and brag. We don't want to trade cultures with the West or adapt their fratboy bragging. Maybe you should stop trying to insinuate that that's the right way or to make it happen.
 
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