Chinese shipbuilding industry

dingyibvs

Senior Member
Just a theory, but considering how much bigger Chinese trade is vs US, the potential for China to retaliate against US port fees by charging fees on Korean / Japaneses ships might factor into ordering calculus.
Since this port fee thing has been out for a while now, I've refined my thoughts on Chinese retaliatory measures. I've thought of a very simple measure that doesn't specifically target foreign-made ships: Just charge a fee on any company that got to avoid port fees docking in the US, equivalent to the fees they would've paid had they used Chinese-made ships. For example, if say MSC had 1 ship that docked at an American port with a Korean ship and avoided $1M of port fees that they would've otherwise paid with a Chinese ship, then MSC will be billed $1M if they want to dock any ships at a Chinese port.

What this does is essentially make any company that wants their ships to dock in both the American and Chinese ports pay a port fee, regardless of the ship they use. The only way for companies to avoid fees is by only docking in American ports or only docking in Chinese ports. If they do that, they're still subject to fees at American ports if they use Chinese ships, but they won't be subject to fees at Chinese ports regardless of the ship they use.

The direct impact of this would be as such:
1) Trade cost between China and the ROW (sans US) would be roughly the same since all ships are still available to use with no fee.
2) Trade cost between the US and the ROW (sans China) would increase since all ships must pay a fee, either to the US or China, unless the shipping company has no ships that dock at Chinese ports.
3) Trade cost between the US and China would increase due to unavoidable port fees regardless of the ship used.

The ultimate impact would be as such:
1) Overall trade cost would increase slightly. The port fees per container is actually very small, so shipping companies will probably just pay the fees.
2) Most importantly, it would eliminate any incentive to purchase non-Chinese ships.
3) Less likely, it would encourage the creation of China-specific, US-specific, and inter-China/US shipping companies. The relatively small amount of port fees probably doesn't justify this, however.
 

GulfLander

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The vessel, built by GSI in collaboration with China Shipbuilding Trading (CSTC) for South Korea's Hyundai Merchant Marine (HMM), will be operated by Hyundai Glovis.
Glovis Titan will leave Guangzhou for South Korea next week, two months ahead of schedule.

Located on Longxue Island at the mouth of the Pearl River in the Nansha district of Guangzhou, GSI, a subsidiary of China State Shipbuilding Corp, has received almost 40 orders for construction of PCTCs to date.

Of these, 17 7,000-unit PCTCs and two 8,600-unit models have been delivered for use.

 

supercat

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China's shipbuilders remain profitable despite drops in orders.
The Chinese shipbuilding industry has achieved record revenue and net profit in the first half despite a drop in new orders in the global market as global shipowners exercise caution in new investments this year, according to a senior executive at the China Association of the National Shipbuilding Industry.
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by78

General
The backup/emergency refrigeration and air conditioning system has been installed and activated.

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The retractable fin stabilizers of Adora Flower City have passed inspection. The ship is on track to be delivered by the end of 2026.

5个月,单个项目调试效率提升近30%。目前,“爱达·花城号”已全面进入舾装收尾阶段,预计2026年年底完工交付 007unz1qly1i5it7z1pvlj30yf0irtnk...jpg5个月,单个项目调试效率提升近30%。目前,“爱达·花城号”已全面进入舾装收尾阶段,预计2026年年底完工交付 007unz1qly1i5it80wjkgj30zk0oxtd0...jpg
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
Since this port fee thing has been out for a while now, I've refined my thoughts on Chinese retaliatory measures. I've thought of a very simple measure that doesn't specifically target foreign-made ships: Just charge a fee on any company that got to avoid port fees docking in the US, equivalent to the fees they would've paid had they used Chinese-made ships. For example, if say MSC had 1 ship that docked at an American port with a Korean ship and avoided $1M of port fees that they would've otherwise paid with a Chinese ship, then MSC will be billed $1M if they want to dock any ships at a Chinese port.

What this does is essentially make any company that wants their ships to dock in both the American and Chinese ports pay a port fee, regardless of the ship they use. The only way for companies to avoid fees is by only docking in American ports or only docking in Chinese ports. If they do that, they're still subject to fees at American ports if they use Chinese ships, but they won't be subject to fees at Chinese ports regardless of the ship they use.

The direct impact of this would be as such:
1) Trade cost between China and the ROW (sans US) would be roughly the same since all ships are still available to use with no fee.
2) Trade cost between the US and the ROW (sans China) would increase since all ships must pay a fee, either to the US or China, unless the shipping company has no ships that dock at Chinese ports.
3) Trade cost between the US and China would increase due to unavoidable port fees regardless of the ship used.

The ultimate impact would be as such:
1) Overall trade cost would increase slightly. The port fees per container is actually very small, so shipping companies will probably just pay the fees.
2) Most importantly, it would eliminate any incentive to purchase non-Chinese ships.
3) Less likely, it would encourage the creation of China-specific, US-specific, and inter-China/US shipping companies. The relatively small amount of port fees probably doesn't justify this, however.

I don't think this fee has been implemented yet ? adding more cost to the US consumers
 

Wrought

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Geely is repurposing automobile technology in barges.

The barge, which has a capacity of 64 TEU, was launched on September 12 at the Hangzhou Qianhang Shipyard. It uses liquid methanol technology combined with alcohol-hydrogen electric technology. Geely reports that the technology has already been employed in over 50,000 hybrid electric vehicles on the road. For the inland river vessel named Yuanchum 001, they have installed a 150kW dual motor. It is powered by two 280kW methanol generators and two 258kWh lithium batteries.

The design permits the vessel to operate in four different modes, and they report it will have a combined range of nearly 1,000 miles (1,500 km). Geely promotes that this will far exceed the 250 km range of the mainstream 3,000kWh class pure electric vessels being deployed today. China has invested in the development of electric inland shipping, including plans for recharging stations along the Yangtze River.

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by78

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The newly upgraded Jiaolong has completed a series of dives from Feb 27 to March 25. Her upgrades have been verified to perform as designed. Jiaolong is expected to complete more than 80 dives this year, setting a new record.

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Jiaolong has carried out China's first manned deep dives in the Arctic. The submersible was part of a polar scientific mission, during which it made 10 dives.

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