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manqiangrexue

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ZeEa5KPul, running out of real debate and now switch to English level discussion, lol
Your poor English is non-trivial; it caused you to misunderstand clear writing, disrupting the conversation. I have explained it to you and pointed out your poor English at the same time and you have no rebuttal to my explanation.
2001 to 2010 US was too busy on something else to confront China on anything.
Already debunked, reread:
"From 2001 to 2010, China was developing in every way it could. It missed no opportunity except random cherry-picked things. And the heat was lower back then simply because China was too weak to be in striking range of challenging the US. Once China is in that range, it's gonna be noticed. If it weren't for China being so powerful now, the US would be preoccupied with Iran."
 

Oldschool

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Your poor English caused you to misunderstand clear writing. I have explained it to you and pointed out your poor English at the same time and you have no rebuttal to my explanation.

Already debunked, reread:
"From 2001 to 2010, China was developing in every way it could. It missed no opportunity except random cherry-picked things. And the heat was lower back then simply because China was too weak to be in striking range of challenging the US. Once China is in that range, it's gonna be noticed. If it weren't for China being so powerful now, the US would be preoccupied with Iran."
ZeEa5KPul

Fact remains China didn't develope critical sector in semiconductor from 2001 to 2010 golden period.

Developed other stuffs is no substitute
 
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ZeEa5KPul

Fact remains China didn't develope critical sector in semiconductor from 2001 to 2010 golden period.

Developed other stuffs is no substitute
This is beyond annoying now. China developed IC technology from 2001 - 2010. Look at when most of the listed IC companies were founded. There wasn't a market for Chinese IC technology back then. There is now. That's why we are talking about SMEE's ArFi right now
 

Oldschool

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This is beyond annoying now. China developed IC technology from 2001 - 2010. Look at when most of the listed IC companies were founded. There wasn't a market for Chinese IC technology back then. There is now. That's why we are talking about SMEE's ArFi right now
From 2001 to 2010, they could nail KrF down. Or even i line, g line.
 

manqiangrexue

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ZeEa5KPul

Fact remains China didn't develope critical sector in semiconductor from 2001 to 2010 golden period.
That's a fact that China didn't indigenize lithography during that period and I wouldn't argue against it, simply that there is no reason to call it a golden period (as I have already debunked) and there were no market forces to make China indigenize lithography during that period. So the fact is that it was not developed but there is good reason.
Developed other stuffs is no substitute
And lithography is no substitute for other things, but all of them are potential targets against China for America's last stand tech war. They are all holes that China had to plug up and it did the vast majority of them. Lithography is arguably the most difficult one so it makes sense that it takes the longest, and on top of that, with the recent incentive, China is making breakneck progress. There is nothing to complain about except for people who are really just complaining to project their displeasure of themselves onto others.
From 2001 to 2010, they could nail KrF down.
Just so you know, that's a finite amount of time and China had a very finite amount of resources in that time. China used that time with what it had to grow just as it should have. But it's unreasonable and unrealistic to expect everything to be done in 9 years with what China had.
 

Oldschool

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That's a fact that China didn't indigenize lithography during that period and I wouldn't argue against it, simply that there is no reason to call it a golden period (as I have already debunked) and there were no market forces to make China indigenize lithography during that period. So the fact is that it was not developed but there is good reason.

And lithography is no substitute for other things, but all of them are potential targets against China for America's last stand tech war. They are all holes that China had to plug up and it did the vast majority of them. Lithography is arguably the most difficult one so it makes sense that it takes the longest, and on top of that, with the recent incentive, China is making breakneck progress. There is nothing to complain about except for people who are really just complaining to project their displeasure of themselves onto others.

Just so you know, that's a finite amount of time and China had a very finite amount of resources in that time. China used that time with what it had to grow just as it should have. But it's unreasonable and unrealistic to expect everything to be done in 9 years with what China had.
2001 to 2010 is US terrorism campaign.

It's a long time.

It's China golden period to develope however it likes.

From 1990 to 2000, China has too little resources.

From 2010 to 2020, US refocused back to China
 
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