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manqiangrexue

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yeh keep plotting

Chinese ain’t ones killing civilians all over the world for fun
I like how their wording is changing as they come to terms with the mortality of the American technological lead. Last year, it was to kill off Chinese players in semiconductors with sanctions to bring China to heel. This year, it's to prevent Chinese domination in semiconductor tech. Next year, it will be to form a small wall of resistance within the US that can hold out when the rest of the world has succumbed to Chinese global semiconductor dominance. Finally, it will be to negotiate terms with China to ensure that China doesn't weaponize its supply lines to the world for its critical semiconductor technology.
 

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I like how their wording is changing as they come to terms with the mortality of the American technological lead. Last year, it was to kill off Chinese players in semiconductors with sanctions to bring China to heel. This year, it's to prevent Chinese domination in semiconductor tech. Next year, it will be to form a small wall of resistance within the US that can hold out when the rest of the world has succumbed to Chinese global semiconductor dominance. Finally, it will be to negotiate terms with China to ensure that China doesn't weaponize its supply lines to the world for its critical semiconductor technology.
The last 10 years went by so quick.

We will see soon the true credibility of Chinese leadership and perseverance.
 

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All of ASML's scientists and sources come from the Netherlands. There are absolutely no non-Dutch involved in ASML supply chain at any point ;)
Exactly, ASML sourced from Netherlands' population of 7 millions. Proving that the quality of technology/technician matter more that the quantity of people available. That is why your statement of US can sourced from 7 billions people Vs China 1.3 billion is not relevant.
 
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All of ASML's scientists and sources come from the Netherlands. There are absolutely no non-Dutch involved in ASML supply chain at any point ;)
Korea (population 52 million), Taiwan (population 23 million), and Netherlands (population 7 million) all focused on very niche industries with high-cost of entry, which translate to few or little competition.

It was never about talent pool because each one of these nations have tiny tiny tiny population and talent pools to draw from.

The very high-cost of entry that disincentives more competition from US/China/Japan, NOT the lack of talent pool.
 

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award winning chips

China biggest FPGA chip maker, under Tsinghua Unigroup, bigger than gowinsemi, FPGA, field programmable gate array or programmable CPU logic , used extensively in telecom, like huawei or Zte base station board
Titan series , 40nm , 500Mhz frequency, with 217K flipflops, 174K lookup tables, DDR3 memory interface,

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networking ethernet chip
(GoldenGate) is designed for cost effective high density 10GbE/40GbE applications with unique 4x100GbE uplink capability. It incorporates innovative CloudWise™ technology providing cutting-edge silicon level intelligence for visibility, resilience, efficiency, flexibility and manageability – the key building blocks of Cloud 3.0 applications. CTC8096 is ideal for flow/application aware network for cloud computing, network virtualization and SDN/NFV.

As the fourth generation of Centec TransWarp™ family, CTC8096 inherits rich feature set from L2/L3 switching to advanced data center and metro Ethernet features with innovative enhancement.

The CTC8096 provides up to 96x10GbE ports, or 24x40GbE, or 80x10GbE + 4x100GbE ports. The SerDes design is compliant to wide standards including SGMII/XAUI/DXAUI/XFI/SFI/10G-KR/40G-KR4/100G-KR4.


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Figure 1: CTC8096(GoldenGate) switch silicon
 
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ansy1968

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award winning chips

China biggest FPGA chip maker, under Tsinghua Unigroup, bigger than gowinsemi, FPGA, field programmable gate array or programmable CPU logic , used extensively in telecom, like huawei or Zte base station board
Titan series , 40nm , 500Mhz frequency, with 217K flipflops, 174K lookup tables, DDR3 memory interface,

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networking ethernet chip
(GoldenGate) is designed for cost effective high density 10GbE/40GbE applications with unique 4x100GbE uplink capability. It incorporates innovative CloudWise™ technology providing cutting-edge silicon level intelligence for visibility, resilience, efficiency, flexibility and manageability – the key building blocks of Cloud 3.0 applications. CTC8096 is ideal for flow/application aware network for cloud computing, network virtualization and SDN/NFV.

As the fourth generation of Centec TransWarp™ family, CTC8096 inherits rich feature set from L2/L3 switching to advanced data center and metro Ethernet features with innovative enhancement.

The CTC8096 provides up to 96x10GbE ports, or 24x40GbE, or 80x10GbE + 4x100GbE ports. The SerDes design is compliant to wide standards including SGMII/XAUI/DXAUI/XFI/SFI/10G-KR/40G-KR4/100G-KR4.


CTC8096.png

Figure 1: CTC8096(GoldenGate) switch silicon
@Oldschool It said 40nm so it uses either the SMEE 90NM SSB600 or CETC 65nm Dry litho? and if not, please not the ASML NX1800i series.:(
 

Oldschool

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@Oldschool It said 40nm so it uses either the SMEE 90NM SSB600 or CETC 65nm Dry litho? and if not, please not the ASML NX1800i series.:(
its SMIC 40nm process, as of now, SMIC doesnt use any SMEE and CETC so far in the fab. SMIC will try out the SMEE 28nm this year.
If the smee 28nm is good, then anything above would also be solved.
 

ansy1968

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its SMIC 40nm process, as of now, SMIC doesnt use any SMEE and CETC so far in the fab. SMIC will try out the SMEE 28nm this year.
If the smee 28nm is good, then anything above would also be solved.
@Oldschool so it is SMIC thanks for the info, I thought Tsinghua Unigroup had their own FAB. :confused:
 
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