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Chinese semiconductor industry
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I think the biggest issue is people are asking why China couldn't compete with the whole world not just the US. If without sanctions, China could probably churn out 7nm and 5nm already which the US couldn't do at the moment. China is 20-30% self sufficient on semiconductor equipment which is pretty high if compare with other countries.
MSM and many so called experts asked why China couldn't achieve what it did in other sectors and replicate in semiconductor. The simple answer is the game is stacked against China when it is China against the world as the US is forcing other countries to comply with banning exports of many high end semiconductor equipment.
MSM and many so called experts asked why China couldn't achieve what it did in other sectors and replicate in semiconductor. The simple answer is the game is stacked against China when it is China against the world as the US is forcing other countries to comply with banning exports of many high end semiconductor equipment.
Not really. Flat panel，ship building，lithium battery，high speed rail etc, none of these are "new techs"，they were very mature by the time China entered the game，but China managed to claim a large share of the market anyway. Even wind isn't new tech，Vestas/Siemens/GE dominated the market before China enter the game.
In all of these sectors flat panel, ship building, lithium battery, high speed railway etc, they are not mature technology at all, as they are still evolving technology. China has managed to innovate in these areas, while others have stayed stagnant. For example, the US is stagnant in all these sectors..
Semiconductor is also evolving，then why would you say semiconductor is mature technology？
Ship building has been around for hundreds of years already，much longer than semiconductor，how is it ship building less mature than semiconductor？Remember the british has been building modern ships hundreds of years before Korea/China enter the game
There is even less "evolution" in LCD industry than semiconductors，compare to 30 years ago，apart from the panel got larger.
There is no major breakthrough in lithium battery chemicals today than semiconductors，compare to 30 years ago
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All of the above are evolving technologies. I did not say semiconductor is mature. The Chinese and the Vikings have been building ships way before the British entered the game.
I don't get what exactly are you trying to claim here？
I was replying to KYli’s post，where he claims that China having hard time in semiconductor industry，is because semiconductor is an old and mature industry，so later comers like China will naturally experiencing difficulties，and the areas where China succeeded are all emerging new industries. I counter his claim by providing examples where China succeed in industries just as old and mature as semiconductor if not more.
I'm sorry, what is mature semiconductor technology? it's just the production line... China has completed most of the mature 28nm semiconductor technology... the most difficult thing for China is that there are so many companies that don't understand about R&D... they still do foot in place... but luckily that's not a big problem for China... 90-28nm semiconductor technology is still useful in most of the chip industry
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- Defect Review SEM
SEpA-r600 is the first generation DR-SEM product of Dongfang Jingyuan. At present, the engineering machine (Alpha machine) has passed the first round of wafer demo, and the image quality has reached the level of the 6th generation of international mainstream equipment, realizing "clear sight"; the high-precision workpiece table is perfectly matched with the self-developed coordinate transformation algorithm, which can combine high-end The defect position reported by the optical inspection equipment is calibrated within the error range of ±1μm, reaching the international advanced level in the "accurate" index; the Search Mode and Direct Mode processes have been opened up, and "automation" has been realized in defect re-inspection. The product development team has both electron beam inspection/re-inspection experience and high-end optical inspection equipment application experience. The compound knowledge system enables the team to have a deeper understanding of DR-SEM, and the products developed will be closer to customer needs. At present, the SEpA-r600 product can meet the requirements of >=28nm process, and the Beta machine integration work is accelerating, and the customer order has been received, and it is just around the corner to enter the production line for verification.
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