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ansy1968

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Ooh so Huawei can combine and recombine chiplets to produce the Kirin 9006C?
Fabbing 5nm at SMIC seems for now not possible if im still up to date with China semi industry.
Bro remember the deadline? TSMC had to rush production to meet Huawei demand and that include the unfinished chips and from there Huawei take over the finishing process. :)

A repost from last year.

5nm Kirin 9006C chip comes out, Huawei successfully breaks through again​




5nm Kirin 9006C chip comes out, Huawei successfully breaks through again

Many people speculate that Huawei may have broken through the chip blockade of Eagle Sauce , because recently Huawei's new products use a Kirin chip that has never been seen before. This chip is called Kirin 9006 .

What makes many people wonder is how this chip was made? We must know that the current blockade of Huawei by Yingjiang has not relaxed at all. Who is so bold and antagonistic to Yingjiang?

Huawei's precautions​

In fact, everyone has misunderstood that although this chip has just come out, but these chips are not just out of the library, but from Huawei's inventory. This Kirin 9006 chip still uses TSMC technology, and this chip is still the top 5nm process . In terms of structure and performance, Kirin 9006 series chips and Huawei's Kirin 9000 belong to the same brothers , and the similarity between the two is very high in these aspects.


In fact, after Eagle Sauce gave Huawei an ultimatum, Huawei, which was unwilling to give in, could only ask TSMC to produce as many chips as possible for itself at the last moment , so that it could hold on for a while when Eagle Sauce suppressed in the future. time. However, at this time, Huawei encountered a serious problem. At that time, Huawei was developing the Kirin 9006 chip, but this chip had not been thoroughly designed yet, and many structures of the chip needed to be perfected, and it had not yet reached the standard for mass production.
But at this time, Huawei knows that if the chip cannot be mass-produced in a short period of time, then this chip will probably stay on the drawing forever, and there will never be a way to be manufactured . This situation is completely unacceptable for Huawei. Huawei has spent a lot of money to develop this chip. If this chip fails at this time , it means that all of Huawei's early investment will be in vain and become meaningless . This will make Huawei, which is already struggling to make a profit this year, even more cramped in the capital chain. So at this time Huawei made a major decision.


Risky decision​

Huawei's risky decision is to let TSMC directly produce the Kirin 9006 chip according to Huawei's current progress in the design of the Kirin 9006 chip . This decision surprised many people. Because this means that even if the Kirin 9006 chip is mass-produced, the obtained chip cannot be used in the product immediately , because it is basically a semi-finished product, and the design of many parts is not complete.
Huawei's idea is that since the overall framework of the chip has been laid out, it is better to build the chip first , so that the chip will not be completely stuck on the drawing and there is no way to mass produce it. As for the flaws and deficiencies in the chip design process, Huawei can make up and improve in the future, so that this chip will finally have the strength to carry .
5nm Kirin 9006C chip comes out, Huawei successfully breaks through again


In fact, this is a very risky decision.
First of all, Huawei does not know whether there are loopholes in the design of this chip . Because this chip has not been officially taped out and has not undergone performance testing, Huawei does not know whether there are design flaws in the design of this chip. At this time, it is a very risky decision for Huawei to mass-produce this chip . Because once discovered in the later stage, this chip has design flaws , it is very likely that this chip can not be put into practical applications in the end, which will be a huge loss for Huawei .


Secondly, whether Huawei has the technical strength to perfect these semi-finished chips and finally apply them to the use of products , these are questions that have to be considered. However, in the end, in order to be able to win more capital for the turnaround , Huawei resolutely put this chip into mass production.

Huawei ushered in new opportunities​

Facts have proved that Huawei's decision is correct. After several months of hard work, Huawei has relied on its strong technical strength to perfect all of these Kirin 9006 chips . At present, these chips can already be used in products. Through performance testing, Kirin 9006 is superior to Huawei's previous flagship Kirin 9000 in all aspects . It can be seen that Kirin 9006 may help Huawei achieve a new round of technological breakthroughs in the future.
5nm Kirin 9006C chip comes out, Huawei successfully breaks through again


At present, Huawei's latest laptop "Qingyun L420" has begun to carry the low-profile version of the Kirin 9006C of this chip. According to user feedback, this laptop is equipped with Huawei's latest chip, which is superior in performance, fluency, and power consumption. The performance is very good . The advent of the Kirin 9006 caught Eagle-chan by surprise. No one thought that a few months later, Huawei could actually pull out a hole card at this time . It seems that Eagle-chan's desire to defeat Huawei in one fell swoop was completely shattered .

Huawei's foresight has given itself more capital to turn around when fighting against Yingjiang's suppression. Of course, these can only help Huawei persist for a longer time. In the future, if Huawei wants to go more smoothly, it still has to achieve technological breakthroughs. Therefore, we must expect Huawei to make more efforts.


5nm Kirin 9006C chip came out, Huawei once again demonstrated its own strength
Unexpectedly, Huawei still has a hole card! 5nm chip came out, Huawei successfully turned over
 
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The use of the so-called foreign direct product rule will prevent companies anywhere in the world from selling certain advanced computing chips to Chinese buyers without a U.S. government license if the companies use American technology to make the chips, according to several people briefed on the measure, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the still-unannounced plans.
The rule would apply to semiconductor chips used in supercomputers and certain artificial intelligence applications.
The foreign direct product rule is a particularly harsh trade measure because the rule imposes restrictions not just on chipmakers in the United States, but on any company or factory in the world that relies on American equipment or software to make chips. There is hardly a semiconductor on the planet today that is not made with American tools or designed with software that originated in the United States.
The administration also wants to restrict the export to China of chip-making tools used by Chinese companies such as the country’s leading memory chipmaker, YMTC, and the leading Chinese producer of processors, SMIC. If the rule is enacted as currently envisioned, it would cut off access to American manufacturing and design tools for chips that are 14 nanometers in size or smaller.
The Biden administration also is planning to place more Chinese organizations on an export blacklist called the Entity List.
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When you buy a US product, any US product, then it's not really yours, it is more like a kind of revocable loan...just like when you buy U.S. Treasury Securities or even plain dollars and unwisely put them in a US bank. The money / bond is not really yours (ask Afghanistan and Russia for details).

China has 2 generational-scope efforts to do before announce "mission accomplished". (1) Reach technology independence (and this is the easy one), (2) de-dollarize its economy, and this will be really tough.
 

hullopilllw

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When you buy a US product, any US product, then it's not really yours, it is more like a kind of revocable loan...just like when you buy U.S. Treasury Securities or even plain dollars and unwisely put them in a US bank. The money / bond is not really yours (ask Afghanistan and Russia for details).

China has 2 generational-scope efforts to do before announce "mission accomplished". (1) Reach technology independence (and this is the easy one), (2) de-dollarize its economy, and this will be really tough.
What you think WW3 is for ? If China is not allowed to develop then there is no point to exist peaceful under western domination. A WW3 will be great, using force to bring down this twisted western dominated world order.
 

ansy1968

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When you buy a US product, any US product, then it's not really yours, it is more like a kind of revocable loan...just like when you buy U.S. Treasury Securities or even plain dollars and unwisely put them in a US bank. The money / bond is not really yours (ask Afghanistan and Russia for details).

China has 2 generational-scope efforts to do before announce "mission accomplished". (1) Reach technology independence (and this is the easy one), (2) de-dollarize its economy, and this will be really tough.
Bro can carbon base material replace silicon?
 

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What you think WW3 is for ? If China is not allowed to develop then there is no point to exist peaceful under western domination. A WW3 will be great, using force to bring down this twisted western dominated world order.
This guy got it backwards... as I like to say, Energy > Money and so it is that hard tech be it EUV, fusion, quantum, AI etc is way more important (and a lot harder) than coming up with ones own monetary scheme or "dedollarization" (the dollar is already dead man walking and will end all on its own one way or another)

Some people seem to forget that it was China who invented the concept of money and it is China again that shall and will reinvent it once more
 
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