It has stunted the growth of China semiconductor since then. It was historical low point.
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It has stunted the growth of China semiconductor since then. It was historical low point.
Explain how it stunted China's semicon development? Do you honestly think the government back in 2006 poured every atom of resource dedicated to semicon back then (which would have been relatively minuscule) to this one guy? What makes you think that? I understand your conjecture but it's really stretching it and that's already giving you a lot of credit.
Sorry but there really is not a shred of hint that this guy's antics would have disrupted China's semicon efforts. I'm sure bigger factors were at play such as China barely beginning to get into electronics back in 2006, let alone design and eventually also fabrication.
Explain how it stunted China's semicon development?
The money got robbed and trust for future semiconductor investment ideas completely lost. The next guy proposing new idea was viewed through the lens of distrust.
It was dead in the water for a while.
The ghost has to be exorsized.
Samsung will be announcing their Exynos 1080... in Shanghai?
I guess they are seeing a big market opportunity. It is also the first time they are announcing the processor itself, not with a device or any device.
I guess they are seeing a big market opportunity. It is also the first time they are announcing the processor itself, not with a device or any device.
The money got robbed and trust for future semiconductor investment ideas completely lost. The next guy proposing new idea was viewed through the lens of distrust.
It was dead in the water for a while.
The ghost has to be exorsized.
The gov got robbed by a few million (RMB?) by this guy, okay. I still doubt that's significant and if the result is they develop better ways of scrutinising individuals, then that was definitely a worthwhile lesson to learn back in 2006. I'm sure the CCP spend more on cleaning Beijing streets every week than what they gave this guy? Losing trust in potential swindlers is a good thing. One swindler existing doesn't mean the entire industry is filled with swindlers. But that goes without saying knowing just how far China's come in semiconductors, telecom, and computing; from a non-existent, no start to trailing the absolute leaders of the industry in less than 20 years. Dominating peerlessly in a select few departments -5G related, quantum, supercomputer, exascale.
It was quite a setback back then no matter how it was spinned. Trust is not easily builtThe gov got robbed by a few million (RMB?) by this guy, okay. I still doubt that's significant and if the result is they develop better ways of scrutinising individuals, then that was definitely a worthwhile lesson to learn back in 2006. I'm sure the CCP spend more on cleaning Beijing streets every week than what they gave this guy? Losing trust in potential swindlers is a good thing. One swindler existing doesn't mean the entire industry is filled with swindlers. But that goes without saying knowing just how far China's come in semiconductors, telecom, and computing; from a non-existent, no start to trailing the absolute leaders of the industry in less than 20 years. Dominating peerlessly in a select few departments -5G related, quantum, supercomputer, exascale.
Even at 45nm , considered low end, I still have doubt on how fast Huawei can have it up and running. Until Huawei chips actually being built ..hi TD739,
An excerpt from AndrewS post
Huawei and ICRD declined to comment on the plans for the production facility.
“You will not obtain any information from us here, we cannot give you anything,” said Huang Yin, an ICRD spokeswoman. “This is rather sensitive.”
A major shareholder of ICRD is state-owned Huahong Group, which also controls contract chipmakers Huahong Grace and HLMC.
Now all Chinese tech company will be tight lipped as not to arouse the US, we are lucky we had members here who can give us some info.
Only a fraud would predict China EUV ready in 2 years
It was quite a setback back then no matter how it was spinned. Trust is not easily built
But giving this one speck of drama any attention is missing the forest for the tree. Finance swindlers are a dime a dozen and scandals are rife literally all over the anglo world in the last few decades with several high profile cases. Does this prove the whole industry is ineffective in servicing the purpose?
I'm not sure I follow your point. You're saying this one guy 100% represented (back in circa 2006) the entirety of Chinese semiconductor hopes and the government gave him the entire "budget" for developing the field? I'm not sure that's how it was and how it works. This thing is a non-story and about as important or damaging to China's bank balance as a digital toll charge. The vehicle didn't even slow down and the proof is all in front of us today. This isn't even something we need to speculate about, the results and proof are apparent.
Even at 45nm , considered low end, I still have doubt on how fast Huawei can have it up and running. Until Huawei chips actually being built ..
Only a fraud would predict China EUV ready in 2 years
2 years or so are reasonable guesses for people who don't actually know the requirements. That includes you. It could be 2 months or 20 years. His opinion is about as valid as yours.
While you casually dismissed this as nonsignificant ,Chen jin was hailed as National Hero according to major chinese paper. Let others decide then..But giving this one speck of drama any attention is missing the forest for the tree. Finance swindlers are a dime a dozen and scandals are rife literally all over the anglo world in the last few decades with several high profile cases. Does this prove the whole industry is ineffective in servicing the purpose?
I'm not sure I follow your point. You're saying this one guy 100% represented (back in circa 2006) the entirety of Chinese semiconductor hopes and the government gave him the entire "budget" for developing the field? I'm not sure that's how it was and how it works. This thing is a non-story and about as important or damaging to China's bank balance as a digital toll charge. The vehicle didn't even slow down and the proof is all in front of us today. This isn't even something we need to speculate about, the results and proof are apparent.
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