Chinese infantry fighting vehicles

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New Norinco IFVs for export. For more, see New Chinese Military (export) vehicles thread.

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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
ZBD ,not ZDB
nit picker!! :p


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I am wondering what this version is intended for use as. It looks to lack a MG and has that raised roof. In the US Stryker family Raised roof versions are used for Medical evacuation and Command Vehicles

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Note it looks to be a diffrent cannon mounted then on the VN12 or is it just a different frame around the barrel?

Interesting, the VN-12 has an offset turret.
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Asymmetric turrets are actually common on IFV's the German Puma IFV has a Double Asymmetric turret meaning that the Turret is offset to the left but the main cannon is off set to the right centering the cannon. by placing the turret off centerline, it opens up space for other uses like the engine or access between the crew and infantry compartments. note they mounted the antitank missiles on the left side of the turret. Also note that the IFV seems to have a series of small windows along the hull this may indicate that the troops sit back to back. this would mean that the rear of the vehicle would need either double ramps or a double wide ramp and may indicate that it still includes Firing ports compromising the protection of the vehicle.
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Three on the left side
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two on the right mounted possibly symmetrically.
This is a feature that has fallen out of favor in the west Where Bradley lost it's firing ports, and most top european models like Warrior, CV90, ASCOD and Puma lack them as they open gaps in the armor and there use eliminates the possibility of adding additional armor like Reactive tiles.

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This reminds me of the BRDM-2 in that it's a armored vehicle albeit light with that side door. this may indicate the same intended role as a scout, or it could be a follow on to WZ551 series for Police and Military use. the turret is definitely a remote cannon of medium calibre.
 

shen

Senior Member
nit picker!! :p


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Asymmetric turrets are actually common on IFV's the German Puma IFV has a Double Asymmetric turret meaning that the Turret is offset to the left but the main cannon is off set to the right centering the cannon. by placing the turret off centerline, it opens up space for other uses like the engine or access between the crew and infantry compartments. note they mounted the antitank missiles on the left side of the turret. Also note that the IFV seems to have a series of small windows along the hull this may indicate that the troops sit back to back. this would mean that the rear of the vehicle would need either double ramps or a double wide ramp and may indicate that it still includes Firing ports compromising the protection of the vehicle.

two on the right mounted possibly symmetrically.
This is a feature that has fallen out of favor in the west Where Bradley lost it's firing ports, and most top european models like Warrior, CV90, ASCOD and Puma lack them as they open gaps in the armor and there use eliminates the possibility of adding additional armor like Reactive tiles.

two interior shots of ZBD04A, which the export version VN12 is based on. Back to wall seats and one big side opening door as you can see. Shooting out of the firing port is going to be awkward, perhaps made somewhat easier by bullpup rifles. PLA doctrine still call for firing ports. You can still mount ERA if necessary, just cover up the fire ports.

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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Well now you got me. only thing I can think is either they can move the seats or they have the troops put one knee on the bench, the barrel in the port and Spray and pray of course with firing points it's always spray and prey.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Wait a sec dual atgms one on each side of the turret. Sweet. Although I don't like them open like that would rather have a pod packing the AGTMs mounted to the inside edge of the turret.
I am kinda liking the look of this beast. Very nice angles. Although that frame around the Gun in the turret is sorta ugly
Its still light weight at about 23 tons.
 
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