Chinese Hypersonic Developments (HGVs/HCMs)

stannislas

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Nah, not that hard in 2022 if we are talking about PRC/US/RUS , you wouldn’t have seen the image if it’s that cutting edge , of course every time somebody does something they would claim many “first” just so you know how badass their project is, which is true in a sense ,but this isn’t the first RBCC test in China, TBCC has flown too, so is RDE.
Long story short, all kinds of propulsion systems with all kinds of fuel/specs, just another normal day, in real life they do this in a weekly base you just don’t see much
are you fraking kiding me? the world (US/RUS/CHINA/EURO) had started to try the RBCC since 80s, this is the first ever succeed launch...

you were saying this is not hard? ... ok, please go find another one that is even close....

and no the previous test among all countries are all subsystems, or certain phases combination, this is the first ever to achieve a cycle to 6 mach and frist ever model transaction between any other engines to or from the ramjet
 
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Philister

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are you fraking kiding me? the world (US/RUS/CHINA/EURO) had started to try the RBCC since 80s, this is the first ever succeed launch...

you were saying this is not hard? ... ok, please go find another one that is even close....

and no the previous test among all countries are all subsystems, or certain phases combination, this is the first ever to achieve a cycle to 6 mach and frist ever model transaction between any other engines to or from the ramjet
It’s not that hard for China is what we know, Americans is pretty close if not already there, Russia can definitely do this if there’s enough fund and time, this isn’t what we call “cutting edge”
This is what we call “cutting edge”, and what flown today is hardly an overture of a brand new era
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Philister

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“The world was so recent that many things lacked names, and in order to indicate them it was necessary to point. ” — García Márquez
This is the current status of hypersonic technology, it’s like cars before model-T, first practical HCM/HGV of course aren’t meaningless, but so far , they didn’t provide any game changing capability in comparison to DF-21D or SR-71.
What matters is who will create the model-T, and that masterpiece, far as I can tell, has to be powered by TBCC/TRRE, scramjet today, can’t fulfill the requirements due to it’s many fundamental flaws, the thrust and TWR is limited by physics.
We are far from there is what I’m trying to say, from my point of view, I’d say China is most likely to reach the goal first to be honest, at least we have a practical idea ,walking the right path at least I believe so.
Americans are developing TBCC too, but I’ve checked their essays, they were on External parallel combined engine with LH2 in 2018 which in no way a right path, so I wouldn’t bet on them.
Russians couldn’t do anything anymore, this is way beyond their Soviet legacy, Zircon is far as they could reach.
Europe? Germans are way ahead of everyone else and based what I’ve read, there’s absolutely no chance they can lead the way.
Japan and Korea are basically non existence, their technology is so backward there’s no point talking about it, they are in the same league with India, they could make their own HCMs in next 5-15 years.
Detonation drive is the future, RDE is just one of many possible solutions , what I’ve posted is another one, but current Scramjet tech? It has no future.
 

Hendrik_2000

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“The world was so recent that many things lacked names, and in order to indicate them it was necessary to point. ” — García Márquez
This is the current status of hypersonic technology, it’s like cars before model-T, first practical HCM/HGV of course aren’t meaningless, but so far , they didn’t provide any game changing capability in comparison to DF-21D or SR-71.
What matters is who will create the model-T, and that masterpiece, far as I can tell, has to be powered by TBCC/TRRE, scramjet today, can’t fulfill the requirements due to it’s many fundamental flaws, the thrust and TWR is limited by physics.
We are far from there is what I’m trying to say, from my point of view, I’d say China is most likely to reach the goal first to be honest, at least we have a practical idea ,walking the right path at least I believe so.
Americans are developing TBCC too, but I’ve checked their essays, they were on External parallel combined engine with LH2 in 2018 which in no way a right path, so I wouldn’t bet on them.
Russians couldn’t do anything anymore, this is way beyond their Soviet legacy, Zircon is far as they could reach.
Europe? Germans are way ahead of everyone else and based what I’ve read, there’s absolutely no chance they can lead the way.
Japan and Korea are basically non existence, their technology is so backward there’s no point talking about it, they are in the same league with India, they could make their own HCMs in next 5-15 years.
Detonation drive is the future, RDE is just one of many possible solutions , what I’ve posted is another one, but current Scramjet tech? It has no future.
But but China has confounded the critic again and again and make the impossible possible. So don't count your chicken before it hatch! If someone tell me that China will export more car than Japan 10 years a go I would say you must be crazy but it happened today and now ! And so many other thing like HSRW, Sending expedition to mars, building space station, Having Carrier and so forth and so forth!
 
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