Chinese Hypersonic Developments (HGVs/HCMs)

Blitzo

Lieutenant General
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Has Huitong updated his site to this "new type" or are his statements posted somewhere in a forum ?

He's updated his site on the UAV page
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The latest news (September 2015) suggested that a new hypersonic UAV (>Mach 3)similar to American D-21 featuring a hybrid ramjet/turbojet engine was tested for the first time after being released from an H-6 carrier.
 

JayBird

Junior Member
We need greater clarification as to just what test was actually conducted. Some interpretations of the article are saying it took off and landed like a normal plane....

I'm not sure if Huitong in this case may be filling in some of the dubious gaps with his own more conservative estimates... he's done so similarly in the past.

That's the problem with the style of writing with such article from the more official news. There is always ambiguity with the wordings that you have to decode the true meaning from it.

But at least for me the article sounded a lot more like this plane was taking off on it's own. It mention about the sound of the engines starting before taking off, unless the writer meant the engines of the H-6. and the test pilot was meant the pilots on the H-6.:confused:
 

JayBird

Junior Member
Ok... so I re-read the original article again. Here is the first part and the last part of the article translation. It is plausible this aircraft was released from an H-6.

Maybe the engine roaring sound and taxiing, takeoff was describing the H-6 carrying the unmanned aircraft. And communicating with the test pilot was also meant the H-6 pilots. But the biggest hint this is unmanned aircraft probably is this sentence. "aircraft braking command/instruction issued"


Recently, with the roaring sound of the engine(s) inside the flight test center of our country kicking off the the first flight of certain plane. Along with the aircraft taxiing, takeoff from the ground, and disappeared into the sky. Apprehension, excitement, an indescribable emotion conveys the test team.

A few hours after takeoff and finishing the flight route. A dark colored aircraft diving down at a wide angle from the deep sky, and elegantly leveling even towards the runway. The whole process is like a sharp sword returning back to it's sheath with precision and grace.

Along with the aircraft braking command/instruction issued. The mission is sucessfully concluded. The anxiety and tension was instantly released with applause and laughter in the Monitoring Room.
 

Jeff Head

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Anyway, that CGI looks ridiculously like SR-72 it's almost funny.

To whit:

Chinese picture of new aircraft:

PRC-Hyper-01.jpg

US SR-72 proposal from the same angle

SR72-01.jpg

Another Chinese picture of the new aircraft:

PRC-Hyper-02.jpg

Another SR-72 proposal from the same angle:

SR72-02.jpg

One of the differences is the engine exhaust. The PRC pic has them coming out the end, the SR-72 has them underneath the that tail end of the fuselage.

SR72-03.jpg
 

Skywatcher

Captain
The Person in the pictures, the Former J-15 Chief Designer who died of a heart attack during the test of the first J-15 landing on Liaoning
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Thanks, haven't seen the second photo before.

I always assumed that the mockup was for the JH-XX, but it could be for this UAV/manned plane.

So if the UAV is hypersonic as the article suggests, it should be using a variable cycle scramjet/turbofan engine to reach hypersonic speeds (Mach 5, not 3-4).

Nonetheless, a Mach 3-4 UAV would still be an impressive gamechanges (and a hypersonic follow up is all but certain to follow up).
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
To whit:

Chinese picture of new aircraft:

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US SR-72 proposal from the same angle

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Another Chinese picture of the new aircraft:

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Another SR-72 proposal from the same angle:

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One of the differences is the engine exhaust. The PRC pic has them coming out the end, the SR-72 has them underneath the that tail end of the fuselage.

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So..., are the CGI anything close to the real thing? Or are they OZ in front of the curtain?
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
So..., are the CGI anything close to the real thing? Or are they OZ in front of the curtain?
The SR-72 pics came from the manufacturer...so they are probably pretty close...at least in the ball park at this stage.

I think the pictures posted regarding the potential PRC aircraft are from fanboys and are simply SR-72 pictures that have been stylized for what they hope a PRC aircraft will look like.

Will it? Hard to say...but time will ultimately tell.
 

no_name

Colonel
At this moment, we are not able to confirm below statement. However, in the absence of any reliable information, this is what we get from Cao Gen aka Grass Root from CJDBY.

中国高空高速,侦察/打击一体战机。。。。High Altitude High Speed, Recon/Attack Aircraft

1、能在30-40公里高空,以M3-4的速度,持续飞行。Cruuise at 30-40km altitude at M3-4.

2、能够30分钟到达,中国未来可能出现的冲突地区。Able to reach area of possible conflict in 30 minutes.

3、能携带多种侦察设备,高空对目标区域快速侦察。 Carry various type of recon equipment.

4、能对大型海洋上的移动目标,进行持续跟踪定位。Able to track large moving target at sea.

5、能够携带多型高超音速反舰、反幅射、对地导弹。Carry supersonic speed anti-ship missiles, anti-radiation missiles and air to ground missiles.

6、先期发展无人型,后续发展有人型、多用型。Initial variant will be a UAV, later variant will be manned.

7、两台新研发的吸气式涡喷+冲压发动机。Equiped with two newly developed jet engine + ram jet.

8、水平起降,重复使用,放宽静稳设计。Take off and landing from ground level (runway).

Disclaimer: Above statement and CG pic below are speculation only.

These are the same illustration as posted by Jay bird earlier.

You know, just from reading the list of required capabilities, you'd think they are describing a 6th gen fighter... Wait! Maybe it is...
 
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