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Rafi

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The problem isn't that they move events around, relative to the books. The events that are happening do make sense from the chronology of the book. The problem is that they have added and broken apart characters and have outright changed character motivations. It's not even entirely the same story anymore.

So much has been lost, and what they've added back in doesn't make up for it.



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Basically, Dark Forest invented 'deterrence in space'. It's really a simple concept, but I think it's something only some who is Chinese could think of, not because of Chinese culture, but more because of an intersection of Chinese historical experience (especially recently) and current Chinese scientific development.

Arsenal military academy.
 

zhangjim

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I watched the netflix version. An utter mess. They removed all tension, suspense and fear that was key element of the books and Tencent show. They rushed it too much. Key characters like Ye Wenjie and Da Shi have lost all their essence. All the new western characters are of course really bad.

I atleast thought they will be good with the story telling part. But sadly no.
So far, the Chinese internet is filled with accusations against Netflix.
Everything has turned into American style political correctness. Apart from "racial diversity" and sex, you cannot see any depth in the story.
The ruthless fact proves that Hollywood lacks the ability and willingness to understand different cultures, and they once again messed up the task of adapting East Asian cultural works.

Before the official broadcast, they were proud of their "re creation".
Americans always confidently display their arrogance and shallowness.

Addendum: It is widely recognized that "The Three Body Problem" actually portrays China's survival crisis in the face of imperialist invasion for nearly two hundred years.
Americans consider themselves "chosen one", and no one has yet posed a threat that could deprive them of their right to survival. On the contrary, they have always been successful conquerors. The Native in North America are more like people facing extraterrestrial invasion, and Americans have indeed turned most of them into history that only exists in museums.
 
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Heresy

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So far, the Chinese internet is filled with accusations against Netflix.
Everything has turned into American style political correctness. Apart from "racial diversity" and sex, you cannot see any depth in the story.
The ruthless fact proves that Hollywood lacks the ability and willingness to understand different cultures, and they once again messed up the task of adapting East Asian cultural works.

Before the official broadcast, they were proud of their "re creation".
Americans always confidently display their arrogance and shallowness.

Addendum: It is widely recognized that "The Three Body Problem" actually portrays China's survival crisis in the face of imperialist invasion for nearly two hundred years.
Americans consider themselves "chosen one", and no one has yet posed a threat that could deprive them of their right to survival. On the contrary, they have always been successful conquerors. The Native in North America are more like people facing extraterrestrial invasion, and Americans have indeed turned most of them into history that only exists in museums.
Reading the book, it's pretty clear that in a lot of the ways, the Trisolarians are stand-ins for the Americans; increasingly so now that America has pretty much explicitly stated they would like to halt Chinese scientific progress, at least in select areas.
 

luminary

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I've recently watched and really loved the movie Johnny Keep Walking 年会不能停 for it's critique of modern corporate culture and the struggle of the common workers both office and factory. The big bad being a Boeing-type executive trying to financialize the company was the cherry on top. Would definitely recommend.
 

Chevalier

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Reading the book, it's pretty clear that in a lot of the ways, the Trisolarians are stand-ins for the Americans; increasingly so now that America has pretty much explicitly stated they would like to halt Chinese scientific progress, at least in select areas.
Not just stopping Chinese scientific progress but they also want to prevent Chinese procreation as well, as the Trisolarans want as well.
 

Chevalier

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Ok, so after setting aside some free time, i finally finished the Chinese series of the '3 Body Problem'. The series is set around 2007, just prior to the Beijing 2008 Olympics with flashbacks to the Cultural Revolution told by key characters. The title '3 body' refers not just to the Newtonian physics model of a tertiary star system and the randomness and chaos inherent within such a system and the attempts by characters to resolve this scientific problem, but it is also the name of a virtual reality game within the series.
Some observations, WARNING, SPOILER ALERT:
tl;dr Vindictive girl whose family was torn apart by the Cultural Revolution and the political chaos of the 70s, turns
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in inviting an alien space fleet from that tertiary star system.

That tertiary star system being Tri-Solar, hence the names of the aliens being Trisolarians.


The Cultural Revolution
Unlike the gratuitous depictions in the Netflix version, the Cultural Revolution scenes are depicted to show how it affected everyone and more importanlty, it shows how Chinese society comes to terms with the trauma of the past, specifically how the author Liu CiXin dealt with the trauma of the period.
We have scenes resembling The Crucible in terms of witch hunts, where Ye Wenjie is denounced and betrayed by a cowardly journalist and given how this scene was depicted, i can imagine how the Cultural Revolution traumatised an entire generation into becoming hanjian throughout the 80s and 90s, specifically referring to Miles guo types and the Falun Dafa lunatics.
The concept of people believing their civilisaiton is backward and needs to be redeemed by an alien civilisation or foreign power, finds its adherants in the compradors and hanjian of Chinese history and the native interpreters and Aztec and Incan collaborators ie La Malinches of the Conquistadors; those who willingly betrayed their kith and kin for alien trinkets and beads.


But Anglo Americans should not feel so smug, as they were throughout the 90s-2000s, as they themselves are currently undergoing their own cultural revolution with BLM of the 2016-2022, and the movement of castrating children to become trans. Indeed, look at current events in the UK and the US with toppling statues and the political divide and the political violence of 2017-present.

Environmentalism
China of 2007 was far different from present day China with its EVs and premier world class green technology, and Chinese journalists would often blow the whistle on industrial pollution to public acclaim. This theme of environmental degradation struck a chord with Chinese readers and viewers and catalysed China's green energy technology which our universe's Trisolarians (ie the Anglo Led West) now desperately want to destroy.

I should note that the character of Evans resembles the environmentalists of the first world, the golden billion who preach green energy and zero carbon and yet refuse to give up their private jets and luxuries. That Judgement Day ship probably emitted enough carbon to destroy countless native flora and fauna. People like Evans nowadays can be found in college lecture halls telling their students not to have kids to save the planet, if not attempting to ban disposable chopsticks little realising chopsticks come from bamboo, a renewable and replacable plant, far from extinction.


Anti Technology and Anti Natalism
The anti technology espoused by the ETO (Earth-Trisolarian Organisation ie 5th columnists) and useful idiots in environmental scientsts can find parallels to the works and philosphy of the Unabomber, but the difference is that whilst the scientists are motivated more by concern over the destruction of native habitats and extinction of species, the Unabomber was motivated more by man's place in nature. The Unabomber felt that technology was corrupting and taking man away from his place in nature whereas the Trisolarians simply view humanity's technology as threats to their plans of conquest. Similarly, we can see this same desire by the Anglo led West (who are the stand ins for the Trisolarians) to destroy Chinese science and technology and have China revert to a more primitive state of affairs, easily controlled by the West ie the Century of Humiliation.

And that brings us to the Anti-Natalism policy that Trisolarians have towards humans. This anti natalism is frequently seen in modern environmentalist extremist groups such that american oligarch Elon Musk remarked that the environmentalist movement had morphed into being anti human and extinctionalist. This anti natalism is often expressed in anglo american media with the denigration of the family in hollywood, in anglophone media, and the need to portray fathers negatively and divorced mothers as empowered. Contrast this with the main protagonist of 3 Body in Wang Miao who is a loving husband and father to his adorable 7 year old daughter. Of course, this would never fly in anglo american media today, let alone a positive portrayal of a loving Chinese husband and father. The foil to Wang Miao is the other secondary protagonist in police captain and detective, Shi Qiang who is a rough and tough but charismatic and gung ho foil to Wang Miao's bookish intellect. Together, they represent the resilience of the Chinese civilisation in weathering through history.

Hou Yi
In the main meeting room of Shi Qiang's office, is a mural to
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In Chinese myth and legend, Hou Yi was credited with saving the earth by shooting down multiple suns who threatened to extinguish the Earth; would that the Trisolarians had their own Hou Yi!
Anyway, the 3 body problem refers to the 3 suns inside the 3 body game; the key part of the game is how players predict the passage of the sun so as to determine the seasons. HouYi in destroying the multitude of suns represents the efforts of the scientists in resolving the 3 body problem. In the case of the heroes of this series, by taking a sword to the Gordian knot and resolving the problem with brute force.

Anyway, these are just some initial thoughts after watching the series and i can't wait for season 2 but for that review, i think i'll make it a youtube vid and post it here.
 

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translated & paraphrased by this Twitter user:

On the afternoon of April 3, 2024, focusing on the important topic of promoting the high-quality transformation of IP into film and television, all party members of the Party branch of the Shanghai Film Department visited the headquarters of Mihoyo located in Shanghai to conduct research, inspect and learn about the use of game technology in the field of film, and explore new paths for the development of "film + games."

The branch visited Hoyoverse’s motion capture laboratory and learned about innovative technologies such as real-time motion capture and digitization, as well as 3D digital character model animation production. As a high-tech technology in the field of game production, refined motion capture technology can capture and present movements, postures, and expressions, opening a new door for film creation. When applied to film shooting, it can enhance the expressiveness and realism of digital characters in films, enhancing the audience's immersion. Subsequently, the branch held a symposium with Hoyoverse, focusing on introducing the goals and key tasks of building Shanghai into a “City of Films” over the next three years. The two groups conducted in-depth discussions on how Hoyoverse's main business advantages can be integrated, innovated, and developed alongside the emerging ecology of “film + X” business module (X can be concert/games/conventions/mercs/etc.), Shanghai’s goal of becoming a hub for animated film creation, and film technology R & D.

Staffs from miHoYo expressed that they will earnestly study the Three-Year Action Plan for Shanghai “City of Film” project and promote the transformation of the company's two original hot-selling game IPs, <Genshin Impact> and <Honkai> into films. In conjunction with the advancement of the three-year action plan, the Film Department will, starting from the needs of a game company, help Hoyoverse better participate in making Shanghai into a hub for film creation. It is their hope that more gamers and players will also become film audiences in the future.
 
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