Chinese Engine Development


Xsizor

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Heard, yes. Actually seen ws13 on serial production planes anywhere, no. Not even after a decade since the alleged first test integration on a jf17 airframe.
Serial production / Low rate initial production seems to have been initiated for WS-13E.
 

Deino

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Serial production / Low rate initial production seems to have been initiated for WS-13E.


But for what type? I must admit, the WS-13 is for ma an as mythical engine like once the WP-14 Kunlun was: There have been reports for years, always "in LRIP" or "soon in operational use" but always without any hard evidence and as it seems all J-8H/F in the end still had to rely on the proven WP-13.

As such, my point is for which type? The PLAAF has no fighter type that uses it, the PAF confirmed uses only Russian RD-93, ... some UAV/UCAVs? But which one? ... and so the best bet are the two FC-31 demonstrators and eventually the J-35. But why producing it already (and allegedly since years) when the end-user is not even ready?
 

latenlazy

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But for what type? I must admit, the WS-13 is for ma an as mythical engine like once the WP-14 Kunlun was: There have been reports for years, always "in LRIP" or "soon in operational use" but always without any hard evidence and as it seems all J-8H/F in the end still had to rely on the proven WP-13.

As such, my point is for which type? The PLAAF has no fighter type that uses it, the PAF confirmed uses only Russian RD-93, ... some UAV/UCAVs? But which one? ... and so the best bet are the two FC-31 demonstrators and eventually the J-35. But why producing it already (and allegedly since years) when the end-user is not even ready?
We have seen it on display on the convention floor before though.
 

Deino

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We have seen it on display on the convention floor before though.


Agreed and similar to WS-14s at several Airshows, but do we have a confirmed clear image of a WS-13 where even differences to a RD-93 are visible and even more a confirmed image where one is mounted in an aircraft? IMO not!
 

Xsizor

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Agreed and similar to WS-14s at several Airshows, but do we have a confirmed clear image of a WS-13 where even differences to a RD-93 are visible and even more a confirmed image where one is mounted in an aircraft? IMO not!
Shouldn't there be backup engines for J-31/F-35?
We haven't heard anything about WS-19 for two years. It'd be a risky venture to bet solely on a fresh engine like WS-19.

JF-17 grabs headlines as a potential export winner from time to time. Having an alternative Chinese engine only expands the customer base.
 

Deino

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Shouldn't there be backup engines for J-31/F-35?
We haven't heard anything about WS-19 for two years. It'd be a risky venture to bet solely on a fresh engine like WS-19.

JF-17 grabs headlines as a potential export winner from time to time. Having an alternative Chinese engine only expands the customer base.

For sure, but I won't rate manufacturing a few WS-13 for the two available FC-31 demonstrators not "serial production" and if they are indeed producing it "in serial", then for which aircraft? I don't think full rate production since a few years makes sense for the upcoming J-35?
 

Xsizor

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Is the J-15 Naval flanker series still bereft of a Chinese "heart"? What exactly happened to the the adoption of WS-10 to these aircrafts?
 

by78

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A CJ-1000A mockup at Zhuhai.

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