Chinese Engine Development
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Assuming that the 2016 review reliability takes only a year, you can then start to fit those engines onto the J-20, which would result in a IOC of around 2018-2019, which fits into General He's predictions.
Granted, there could be a 1-2 year delay beyond 2019, but that is hardly unheard of among advanced aviation projects.
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The correct interpretation is that WS-15 and WS-10 have higher priorities than modifications of existing engines, as those two engines are parts of the immediate focus.
People have kept saying the WS10A engine has been solved and mass production and installed in J11B. I said if WS10A indeed equipped J11B in the hundreds like > 200s then that holds.
However according to Kanwa, did some google translation. the number J11B is low maybe like 62 in 6 yrs. That's Not very good at all, Definite mass production issue. The number is just lacking.
汉和提到，上述全部歼-11B/BS的生产数量，从2006至2011年的6年间，只有62架，即16+21+25架。其中，不排除数字是部分重迭的可能性。这就是说，按照最乐观的估计，截至2011年，所有歼-11BS/B的生产数量尚不能装备3个整团。从上述歼-11重型战斗机的生产可以看出，沈飞一直未能进入稳定的量产阶段，进入2013年以后的情形，尚需等待一段时间才能得出结论。
However according to Kanwa, did some google translation. the number J11B is low maybe like 62 in 6 yrs. That's Not very good at all, Definite mass production issue. The number is just lacking.
汉和提到，上述全部歼-11B/BS的生产数量，从2006至2011年的6年间，只有62架，即16+21+25架。其中，不排除数字是部分重迭的可能性。这就是说，按照最乐观的估计，截至2011年，所有歼-11BS/B的生产数量尚不能装备3个整团。从上述歼-11重型战斗机的生产可以看出，沈飞一直未能进入稳定的量产阶段，进入2013年以后的情形，尚需等待一段时间才能得出结论。
A bit misleading since I seem to remember the J-11B's production run starting a lot later, in 2008 or 2009, and given that they suggest 62 up till 2011, when we're all the way into 2013. Also, I'm pretty sure there's way more than 62 J-11Bs by now...Someone who does the counting want to give the actual number?
EDIT: Here we go
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/air-force/future-plaaf-planaf-plane-inventory-5582.html#post238856
For the sake of future arguments, it's important to note that points about how the WS-10A is doing is time sensitive. It makes little sense to discuss problems a program has using evidence from 2011 if we're already in 2013, especially if a change has already been noted in between.
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I stopped reading there.
Well, Kanwa wasn't completely WRONG this time around
. They were just being misleading.Red flags went up everywhere the moment they reported the J-20 was flying on WS-10As.
How many 117S and 117 had equipped aircrafts in Russia or anywhere else. In your theory, the 117S and 117 are not matured yet and there are problems with these engines?
Also... how many F22 are flying now... their engines are different from other engines used on US aircrafts... are these engines also having problem and not being mass produced?
I asked the above questions because of this sentence by you,
Of course you can go on and on and on about how Chinese didn't had good track record, Chinese must always depend on others and the things like that... but what I am seeing is... WS10A had been equipping J-11B, and lets put quality aside (because, frankly speaking, I am not too good with these type of stuff) but the Chinese find it good enough to go on their first line fighters and obviously that is good enough an indication that the engine is mass produced because no sane person would put untested, and dangerous engines on frontline fighters (common sense anyone?)