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ansy1968

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The Atlantic Council hoped to corrupt those billionaires to serve as their proxies in China; little did they know that even billionaires fear the CCP.
@hashtagpls a jingle Gatorade advert from my youth " like MA try to be like MA"....LOL

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Kaeshmiri

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US with its efficient propaganda is turning China into an enemy of Burmese people. Now Chinese economic interests in the region are being threatened.
I had posted about this few days back . Now look.


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The threats were known well before and yet the Junta let it happen . I don't want to jump to conclusions but it seems that the military will allow Chinese interests to be harmed just to appease the West.
 

voyager1

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Chinese private businesses should learn to better evaluate political risks. Invest in stabler countries like Laos, Cambodia and Bangladesh instead.
True.

Chinese investors are still not experienced.
We often hear they invest so much money in poor countries.such as Africa and Myanmar (which was clearly unstable) but do they make a proper risk assesment? Are they insured against such risks? What do the investment agreements say regarding political stability and guarantees from the Myanmar's gov?

It doesn't matter if they had a coup or aliens came to power. As long as the legal representative of the country signed agreements and gave stability guarantees then the following governments must respect them.

However I would say that i don't know if the Chinese government pressured some of the private investment (possible)

Xi is also at fault, I want to hear what guarantees or even collateral he had from Myanmar's government when he signed the
China-Myanmar Economic Corridor agreement. When things are stabilised, Xi better take Myanmar to the cleaners regarding the financial damage chinese investors have taken
 

horse

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I had posted about this few days back . Now look.


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The threats were known well before and yet the Junta let it happen . I don't want to jump to conclusions but it seems that the military will allow Chinese interests to be harmed just to appease the West.
If the Chinese leave Burma, not sure who else will come in and invest in the volume the Chinese intend to.

If the Chinese leave Burma, well they are not leaving, maybe the businesses left, but the border region probably go more into the Chinese sphere of influence.

What happened here in Burma was pretty backwards. They have to sort it out internally. Myanmar is an official member of ASEAN and everyone would like them to contribute and share in the future. Myanmar will need some semblance of political stability.

Burma has to get its act together, then return to the win-win principles with China, and with ASEAN.

If Burma rejects the win-win with China and ASEAN, then they might have to look towards the west to help them out. If the west comes in from that end, well then China will come in from the other end.

Burma must be clear headed about who they are dealing with.
 

ansy1968

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If the Chinese leave Burma, not sure who else will come in and invest in the volume the Chinese intend to.

If the Chinese leave Burma, well they are not leaving, maybe the businesses left, but the border region probably go more into the Chinese sphere of influence.

What happened here in Burma was pretty backwards. They have to sort it out internally. Myanmar is an official member of ASEAN and everyone would like them to contribute and share in the future. Myanmar will need some semblance of political stability.

Burma has to get its act together, then return to the win-win principles with China, and with ASEAN.

If Burma rejects the win-win with China and ASEAN, then they might have to look towards the west to help them out. If the west comes in from that end, well then China will come in from the other end.

Burma must be clear headed about who they are dealing with.
@horse bro, they are easily manipulated, and with covid they have a lot of idle time, paying someone to agitate is a business, when you're poor you do everything to feed your family. Its a common theme among us here in ASEAN with the exception of Singapore, that is why every protest being broadcast in western MSM should be taken with a grain of salt.

The Burmese business people I talk to always said that they support SUU KYI not because of democracy as portrait by the western media but to maintain the wholeness of the country, the British ( always the culprit) created Burma from a hodgepodge of different ethnicity they control and the Burmese Army is the only institution able to hold the nation together, they want to create a wedge between the two, by destroying the Burmese Army they get what they wanted a fracture Burma ripe for the picking.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Come on guy back to Chinese economy It is getting boring reporting on Chinese economy keep winning even consumption went up
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China's factory output surges as recovery accelerates​


BEIJING (Reuters) - China's industrial output growth quickened in January-February, beating expectations, as the vast manufacturing sector started 2021 on a firm footing and the economy consolidated its brisk recovery.

Retail sales in the period also rose in a boost to domestic demand, giving a strong lift to business activity on top of the recent upsurge in exports growth.

Industrial output rose 35.1% in the first two months from a year earlier, up from a 7.3% on-year uptick seen in December, data from the National Bureau of Statistics on Monday. That was stronger than a median forecast of a 30.0% surge in a Reuters poll of analysts.
 
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gadgetcool5

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There are a lot of base effects going on due to 2020. I calculated the compound growth rate since 2019. Here is what we've gotten so far if you look at a smoothed rate assuming equal growth in 2020 and 2021:

Exports +15%
Industrial production +8%
Imports +8%
Retail spending +3%
Fixed asset investment +2%
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Overall, it seems that overseas trade and industrial output is doing a lot of the heavy lifting, domestic spending and investment seem stagnant. IMO these numbers validate that the government is correct to focus on increasing domestic demand. But to do that, they will have to put more money into consumers' pockets.
 
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