Chinese Economics Thread

AssassinsMace

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Even as an intelligence cooperative, it's odd that there's even a "Five Eyes" alliance. They don't trust their non-English partners? Of course the Economist is against this investment deal between the EU-and China... They're the unapologetic defenders of the British Empire and everything they did in the past. Even among the Western alliance, "English" must be on top because so that English speakers benefit the most. That's why it's not only about sharing intelligence. I know in the US people tend not to know another language other than those that are immigrants speaking their native tongue. What about other English speaking allies? Are they on average not likely to speak another language than compared to those of the EU members? After the signing people said it opened the door to foreigners to China while China didn't really get anything in return because China already has those opportunities to invest in Europe. So why would Five Eyes be against it when it's just leveling the playing field? Maybe because it's a bunch of non-English speaking countries talking to one another... The English speaking world becoming less and less dominant hence why there's even an alliance so they can save it. What happens in a world where they're not speaking English and you don't care to speak anyone else's language? You get left out.

I've mentioned this before where there was a school district outside Los Angeles that was thinking of having Chinese taught as a language. Parents protested because they saw teaching their children Chinese tantamounted to brainwashing them. Now you know why they have a history of forcing English onto other cultures. When they invaded and colonized a country, they would fine people they invaded for every non-English word they spoke especially their own language in their own country. That's because they want to brainwash people because that's how they see and not an accusation. If they think being taught another language is equivalent to brainwashing then that's why in their imperialist histories, it was so important where they would commit human rights violation just to enforce the tongue of the colonial master.
 

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Even as an intelligence cooperative, it's odd that there's even a "Five Eyes" alliance. They don't trust their non-English partners? Of course the Economist is against this investment deal between the EU-and China... They're the unapologetic defenders of the British Empire and everything they did in the past. Even among the Western alliance, "English" must be on top because so that English speakers benefit the most. That's why it's not only about sharing intelligence. I know in the US people tend not to know another language other than those that are immigrants speaking their native tongue. What about other English speaking allies? Are they on average not likely to speak another language than compared to those of the EU members? After the signing people said it opened the door to foreigners to China while China didn't really get anything in return because China already has those opportunities to invest in Europe. So why would Five Eyes be against it when it's just leveling the playing field? Maybe because it's a bunch of non-English speaking countries talking to one another... The English speaking world becoming less and less dominant hence why there's even an alliance so they can save it. What happens in a world where they're not speaking English and you don't care to speak anyone else's language? You get left out.

I've mentioned this before where there was a school district outside Los Angeles that was thinking of having Chinese taught as a language. Parents protested because they saw teaching their children Chinese tantamounted to brainwashing them. Now you know why they have a history of forcing English onto other cultures. When they invaded and colonized a country, they would fine people they invaded for every non-English word they spoke especially their own language in their own country. That's because they want to brainwash people because that's how they see and not an accusation. If they think being taught another language is equivalent to brainwashing then that's why in their imperialist histories, it was so important where they would commit human rights violation just to enforce the tongue of the colonial master.
As deep learning AI matures and realtime universal translation becomes commonplace, the value of learning an universal language or being multilingual will subside... ultimately we are headed to Star Trek Universal Translator tech
 

AssassinsMace

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As deep learning AI matures and realtime universal translation becomes commonplace, the value of learning an universal language or being multilingual will subside... ultimately we are headed to Star Trek Universal Translator tech
I remember reading a story of a Mexican businessman who wanted to expand his business into China. He contacted the Chinese embassy in Mexico to inquire and they invited him to China to meet. The language barrier was a concern for him. He arrived in China and waiting for him at the airport was a translator provided for him during his stay. He was amazed because his translator as he said was able to speak Spanish better than some in Mexico he's come across. That's something no technology can give for an impression.
 

B.I.B.

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Even as an intelligence cooperative, it's odd that there's even a "Five Eyes" alliance. They don't trust their non-English partners? Of course the Economist is against this investment deal between the EU-and China... They're the unapologetic defenders of the British Empire and everything they did in the past. Even among the Western alliance, "English" must be on top because so that English speakers benefit the most. That's why it's not only about sharing intelligence. I know in the US people tend not to know another language other than those that are immigrants speaking their native tongue. What about other English speaking allies? Are they on average not likely to speak another language than compared to those of the EU members? After the signing people said it opened the door to foreigners to China while China didn't really get anything in return because China already has those opportunities to invest in Europe. So why would Five Eyes be against it when it's just leveling the playing field? Maybe because it's a bunch of non-English speaking countries talking to one another... The English speaking world becoming less and less dominant hence why there's even an alliance so they can save it. What happens in a world where they're not speaking English and you don't care to speak anyone else's language? You get left out.

I've mentioned this before where there was a school district outside Los Angeles that was thinking of having Chinese taught as a language. Parents protested because they saw teaching their children Chinese tantamounted to brainwashing them. Now you know why they have a history of forcing English onto other cultures. When they invaded and colonized a country, they would fine people they invaded for every non-English word they spoke especially their own language in their own country. That's because they want to brainwash people because that's how they see and not an accusation. If they think being taught another language is equivalent to brainwashing then that's why in their imperialist histories, it was so important where they would commit human rights violation just to enforce the tongue of the colonial master.
What say we all adopted a neutral language such as Latin;)
 

hashtagpls

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Even as an intelligence cooperative, it's odd that there's even a "Five Eyes" alliance. They don't trust their non-English partners? Of course the Economist is against this investment deal between the EU-and China... They're the unapologetic defenders of the British Empire and everything they did in the past. Even among the Western alliance, "English" must be on top because so that English speakers benefit the most. That's why it's not only about sharing intelligence. I know in the US people tend not to know another language other than those that are immigrants speaking their native tongue. What about other English speaking allies? Are they on average not likely to speak another language than compared to those of the EU members? After the signing people said it opened the door to foreigners to China while China didn't really get anything in return because China already has those opportunities to invest in Europe. So why would Five Eyes be against it when it's just leveling the playing field? Maybe because it's a bunch of non-English speaking countries talking to one another... The English speaking world becoming less and less dominant hence why there's even an alliance so they can save it. What happens in a world where they're not speaking English and you don't care to speak anyone else's language? You get left out.

I've mentioned this before where there was a school district outside Los Angeles that was thinking of having Chinese taught as a language. Parents protested because they saw teaching their children Chinese tantamounted to brainwashing them. Now you know why they have a history of forcing English onto other cultures. When they invaded and colonized a country, they would fine people they invaded for every non-English word they spoke especially their own language in their own country. That's because they want to brainwash people because that's how they see and not an accusation. If they think being taught another language is equivalent to brainwashing then that's why in their imperialist histories, it was so important where they would commit human rights violation just to enforce the tongue of the colonial master.
The Anglos tend to project their own prejudices and fears onto others; that's why anglo cultures have a major issue with foreigners speaking their own languages in front of them- because anglos always like to bitch about foreigners even when they are holidaying in foreign countries. The stereotype of the Karen is most distinct in the anglosphere, but i have yet to observe a similar counterpart in non english speaking cultures.

The Five Eyes reflects the race based nature of the Anglo led world order; the obsession over Hitler and Nazis such that Godwin's Law is a thing in the anglosphere, is merely a feature of the psyche of the anglosphere: whilst they helped to defeat the nazis (majority of the effort undertaken by soviet and resistance fighters in europe), they actually identify with nazi ideology on a primal level.

Part of that race based nature means always needing to seek out an outside enemy so as to enforce racial cohesion, as Himmler's New Order called for a great race war against a future japanese empire. Without an outside enemy, the anglosphere with its predatory capitalist imperial nature consumes itself, they can't help exploiting others so end up exploiting their own kind when no other cultures are available at hand- and they will seek out scapegoats to retain the myth of purity in their minds: the white race isn't failing because of its own choices, it's failing because of the jews, because of russian and chinese spies, because of ANTIFA, communists etc etc etc.

This collapse that we are observing in the modern US was inevitable because of the exploitative nature of the US economy and its relationship with the global economy.
 

hashtagpls

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I remember reading a story of a Mexican businessman who wanted to expand his business into China. He contacted the Chinese embassy in Mexico to inquire and they invited him to China to meet. The language barrier was a concern for him. He arrived in China and waiting for him at the airport was a translator provided for him during his stay. He was amazed because his translator as he said was able to speak Spanish better than some in Mexico he's come across. That's something no technology can give for an impression.

What say we all adopted a neutral language such as Latin;)
Language imperialism is a real thing; speaking english and consuming american media reinforces the anglospheric worldview and its race based caste system: whites on top, all other below.

For eg, as an asian male picking up chicks in europe is far more easier because these women have not been inundated by anglo media which has an existential fear against asians and needs to prepare its people for a racial holy war against asians.
In the US and Australia, there is a shitload of baggage that anglos have when it comes to Asians.
 

KYli

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China Issues Rules to Protect Firms, Citizens From Foreign Laws​

(Bloomberg) -- China issued new rules to protect its companies and citizens from what it described as “unjustified” use of foreign laws.

The rules, effective immediately, allow authorities to ban the imposition of other jurisdictions’ laws and measures on Chinese entities when it deems them inappropriate, the Ministry of Commerce said in a statement on its website on Saturday.
 

AssassinsMace

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I thought what few things Republicans and Democrats can agree on was China... Don't think that the siege on Washington and the US's foreign policy are separate issues. They both have the US politicians manipulating and lying which is why this is happening. US politicians hate China not because of human rights abuses. It's because the existence of China has created doubt in American supremacy to which these politicians need to use to get voted into office. If China is threatening US dominance in say technology, it means US politicians failed the American people. They didn't emphasize money on education to stave off Chinese challengers. That's why they also accuse China of stealing. It was Chinese treachery and not because these politicians were lazy on seeing the US's educational needs. It's not their fault.
 

hashtagpls

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Cold war against China ie Race War is really the only card left for the US Elites to play, to stave off potential Revolution at home.
 

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I thought what few things Republicans and Democrats can agree on was China... Don't think that the siege on Washington and the US's foreign policy are separate issues. They both have the US politicians manipulating and lying which is why this is happening. US politicians hate China not because of human rights abuses. It's because the existence of China has created doubt in American supremacy to which these politicians need to use to get voted into office. If China is threatening US dominance in say technology, it means US politicians failed the American people. They didn't emphasize money on education to stave off Chinese challengers. That's why they also accuse China of stealing. It was Chinese treachery and not because these politicians were lazy on seeing the US's educational needs. It's not their fault.
@mace

May I add, their system is not equip to counter/challenge China, All this human rights crap is an admission that China on this issue is doing something right, whatever smear propaganda you accuse China of , lifting 800 million people out of poverty and challenging the US is more than enough proof. So MACE a question , can you see any structural changes happening in the US under Biden? complacency is a curse and nobody seems to want to shake the boat (except for Trump but for his selfish reason). I think both side of the aisle feared organized labor more (leftist progressive policy of Bernie Sanders)and China is being used as a bogeyman.
 
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