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Hendrik_2000

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Chinese prosperity spread to the countryside and more and more country folk join the e commerce potentially altering the structure of chinese economy from export based to consumption
China’s Next Potential Boom Spot: The Places People Overlook
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By MICHAEL SCHUMANDEC. 1, 2017

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Residents of Yancheng, China, dancing underneath a highway in October. Improved infrastructure has opened up areas of China far from the richest cities. CreditYuyang Liu for The New York Times

With improving infrastructure China's hinterland joint the e commerce potentially changing the face of chinese economy from export and capital investment to consumption driven economy

LIANGDUO, China — One crisp October morning, Han Youjun got into his silver delivery van and left this small town in eastern China. Within minutes, his van brimming with boxes of every size and shape, he was rumbling through rice paddies, down narrow village lanes and past modest farmhouses, deeper and deeper into China’s vast hinterland.

In the past, delivery drivers like Mr. Han would have had little reason to travel so far. China’s boom over the past four decades made its crowded metropolises wealthy. Much of the rest of the country, especially farming communities like those surrounding Liangduo, in the eastern province of Jiangsu, remained relatively poor.

But more and more, the benefits of China’s economic miracle are penetrating into smaller cities and countryside hamlets — as Mr. Han, a 32-year-old deliveryman for
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, knows all too well. The 70 packages crammed into his van that day were double the amount he usually hauled only 18 months earlier.

“The workdays have been getting longer,” he said.

China needs spenders in those places. The government is trying to shift the country’s growth engine away from its traditional dependence on factories and building things. Those old growth sources are
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Thanks to China’s
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spent on thousands of miles of new highways and railways, Chinese people away from the biggest cities are responding. Many of China’s more remote areas are catching up to rich metropolises and connecting to the broader economy in ways they had not before, with potential long-term benefits for the Chinese economy and the world.

In the prefecture that contains Liangduo, Yancheng, locals’ wallets are fattening more quickly than the national rate, and their household spending — which surged 8 percent per person in 2016 — outpaced the rises in Beijing and Shanghai.

Signs of that new prosperity can be seen at Auto City, a jumble of ramshackle, boxy buildings in Yancheng where Toyota, Ford and just about every other major brand compete for customers. Zhou Zhengguo, owner of a dealership for the Chinese automaker Geely, expects to sell 2,000 cars this year, four times more than just two years ago.

“Most people who bought cars were private businessmen,” Mr. Zhou said. “Now working-class people buy, too.”

Those who live in China’s less developed places could be crucial to the next stage of China’s development.

Robin Xing, an economist at Morgan Stanley, believes consumer spending in places like Yancheng’s urban center will continue to outperform bigger cities. As a result, two-thirds of all additional private consumption growth will come from these less developed areas through 2030.

“We do expect them to catch up, to narrow the income gap with the large cities,” Mr. Xing said.

Businesses are looking at such areas in a new light. New highways and high-speed railways make relocating factories and other operations into smaller cities easier, allowing companies to take advantage of their lower costs. Industrial output in Yancheng expanded more quickly than the national rate last year.

The gains are not limited to the hinterland’s main towns. Farms are becoming bigger, more efficient and more lucrative.

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Luo Jianhai, a farmer in Xinling village in eastern China, has bolstered his income by expanding his farm.CreditYuyang Liu for The New York Times
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Mr. Luo’s farm in Xinling. He is typical of a new breed of farmer-entrepreneur in China that is helping to transform the countryside. CreditYuyang Liu for The New York Times
In Xinling, a nearby village, Luo Jianhai, 37, is typical of a new breed of farmer-entrepreneur. He has steadily expanded the farm where he tills rice and wheat by renting land from his neighbors. He also invested in two new tractors, which he lends out to other farmers who need them to work their own larger plots. Over the past three years his annual income has increased seven times, to $100,000, and his spending has quadrupled, mainly on higher-quality clothing for his three children and a new, $17,000 car from a General Motors joint venture.

His improved lifestyle, Mr. Luo said, “is the difference between being poor and having money.”

Nearby, Cheng Zhiguo, 47, also enlarged his farm this year, increasing his net income to about $23,000 — five times greater than just three years ago. His reward: his first car, a Hyundai, bought in August.

Such change is luring urban entrepreneurs such as Zhou Jian. Mr. Zhou, a 33-year-old resident of Nanjing, a major city in eastern China, figured that large-scale farming would also need more money. In 2013, he founded Nongfenqi E-Commerce Company, which helps arrange loans for farming families from banks and other lenders.

Nongfenqi has since arranged about $150 million in loans, opened more than 100 offices spread around rural China and hired 800 employees. “The upgrading of the market allows businesses like us to serve these big farmers,” Mr. Zhou said.

Such opportunity has attracted JD.com. Over the past three years, JD.com has more than doubled its army of deliverymen, many aimed at reaching into rural towns and villages.

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Delivery personnel for JD.com, a Chinese e-commerce company, sorting packages in Liangduo in eastern China. Online shopping has expanded into less developed parts of the country as incomes have risen. CreditYuyang Liu for The New York Times
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Zhou Xingdong, left, 45, bought yogurt online, while He Yanmei, 39, bought instant noodles. Chinese e-commerce companies are expanding into more areas away from the country’s richest cities. CreditYuyang Liu for The New York Times
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Cui Xiaokai, 24, with energy drinks and oatmeal from JD.com. “Building a rural logistics network is one of our most important strategies,” said Wang Hui, JD.com’s head of delivery services. CreditYuyang Liu for The New York Times
 
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China denounces U.S. opposition to market economy status Xinhua| 2017-12-02 20:49:16
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China's Ministry of Commerce (MOC) Saturday expressed strong dissatisfaction with the U.S. opposition to granting it market economy status in the World Trade Organization (WTO).

The Office of the U.S. Trade Representative told Xinhua Friday that the United States had submitted a statement of opposition to the WTO as a third-party brief in support of the European Union (EU) in a case brought by China arguing the "surrogate country approach" should be dropped after the expiration date.

"China is strongly dissatisfied and resolutely opposes the rejection, as the U.S. government tried to mix the concepts of the surrogate country approach and market economy status to mislead the public," the MOC said in a statement.

When China joined the WTO, members use costs of production in a third country to calculate the value of products from countries on their "non-market economy" list, which includes China.

In accordance with Article 15 of the accession protocol, the surrogate country approach expires on Dec. 11, 2016.

The case has nothing to do with whether China has been granted market economy status or not as there are no standards in WTO rules for the status, the MOC said, urging all members to drop the practice.

When the approach expired last year, some member nations, including Japan and the United States, indicated they would not honor their commitments with no plans to change their trade policies. The MOC has warned that their refusal would put trade ties with China at risk.
 

ahho

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Toilet revolution in China . The prez himself stress the importance of clean toilet specially in the country side. Once they do that it mark China entry into developed world Plan afoot to install 68000 new toilet country wide

To be honest, having clean toilet is not a hard thing in China in this time period, as cities and village have extra funds to upgrade sanitation. All you need is make the washroom bright, so that it "feels" cleaner. Use good looking tiles that are not slippery, but still shiny. Ensure all toilet stalls have toilet paper. Use better screw and stall dividers, plus toilets that are designed for public use. Most important of all, use air conditioning or dehumidifier and have proper ventilation, during wet seasons or humid seasons, the washroom stay dry. Most city and village do have toilet that have half of what I have mentioned. Now it is having policy to force them to upgrade. All these upgrades are not expensive either if you buy the same equipment for all the washroom you are upgrading. The sanitation worker would also be happier to work there since the place is air conditioned and clean.
 

Hendrik_2000

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To be honest, having clean toilet is not a hard thing in China in this time period, as cities and village have extra funds to upgrade sanitation. All you need is make the washroom bright, so that it "feels" cleaner. Use good looking tiles that are not slippery, but still shiny. Ensure all toilet stalls have toilet paper. Use better screw and stall dividers, plus toilets that are designed for public use. Most important of all, use air conditioning or dehumidifier and have proper ventilation, during wet seasons or humid seasons, the washroom stay dry. Most city and village do have toilet that have half of what I have mentioned. Now it is having policy to force them to upgrade. All these upgrades are not expensive either if you buy the same equipment for all the washroom you are upgrading. The sanitation worker would also be happier to work there since the place is air conditioned and clean.

The problem is not facility or building that can be easily built, but mindset and clean toilet culture take a long time to developed. The idea that "cleanliness is godliness" need to take root in China. You can have the most modern toilet but if you dont know how to keep it clean you still end up with dirty toilet
The news get all over western media and they relish a change to poke fun
China to get extreme toilet makeover to boost tourism
Maggie Hiufu Wong, CNN • Published 3rd December 2017
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(CNN) — Thinking about visiting
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You may be relieved, in more than one way, to hear that the country's leader
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President Xi Jinping, now a bathroom aficionado after frequent visits to inspect the facilities in rural homes, has announced he's doubling down on a campaign for a Chinese "toilet revolution" that he launched in 2015.
Voicing the concerns of many a wary traveler, the communist leader said clean toilets were the cornerstone of a civilized society and would help boost
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to China as well as improving the hygiene of the masses.
Toilet issues are crucial to tourism


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Some 68,000 toilets have been built in tourist sites around China since the launch of the "toilet revolution" in 2015. But we aren't sure if this glass-walled public toilet in Shiyan Lake scenic area, Changsha, is very practical.
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But is the toilet revolution all hot air (which, if nothing else, would at least be useful for drying hands on)? Not according to China's state-run newspaper the
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It says China has opened about 68,000 improved bathrooms in tourist areas around the country since Xi began his campaign.
Good news for places in China that have long had a notorious reputation for appalling standards of public restroom hygiene.
Once deterring visitors with its doorless dry toilets, Jiuzhaigou Natural Reserve in southwestern Sichuan province has just welcomed a series of
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around the area.
Last year, Yunnan province, which borders Myanmar, Laos and Vietnam, held a competition to select the most outstanding toilets in tourist attractions
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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
The chief itself inspect the toilet in the countryside and urge resident to switch to indoor toilet
According to the “Toilet Revolutionary Advance Report” released by China’s National Tourism Administration, 80 percent of infectious diseases in rural areas are caused by bacteria from feces and unsanitary drinking water. There are more than 30 feces-related infectious diseases, the most common of which are dysentery, cholera, hepatitis and infectious diarrhea. Since the 18th CPC National Congress, General Secretary Xi Jinping has spent time in rural areas asking residents there what kind of toilet they use. Xi believes the toilet is more than just a necessary facility, but also a symbol of local civilization. That is why Xi is now pushing for a “toilet revolution”, upgrading China’s conveniences to build a more civilized society and improve hygiene.
 

ahho

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The problem is not facility or building that can be easily built, but mindset and clean toilet culture take a long time to developed. The idea that "cleanliness is godliness" need to take root in China. You can have the most modern toilet but if you dont know how to keep it clean you still end up with dirty toilet
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True. Mindset is important, and that is changing, as they get richer. Family with small children is also affecting the mindset of their parent and grandparents in regarding to behavior and mindset. Keeping public toilet clean is not just mindset, but also putting the investment in it also.

These tiles are the worse for modern washroom, they may be great in the 80 and 90s, but there is no way to clean those yellow marks
 
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