Chinese Economics Thread

fishrubber99

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You know, I haven't really looked into the middle income trap thing; I always thought it was a long term problem that China would overcome sometime maybe in the 2030's. I didn't put much stock into it though because obviously Chinese people live in the most modern cities in the world while some countries with "high income" live in broken old dumps in comparison. But @magmunta 's very very stupid post about how hard it would be for China to break out of the middle income trap made me do some research and realize that China's basically months away from doing it if it hasn't been done already! China is the highest country in terms of GNI per capita on the middle-high income list.
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According to this, Palau has a GNI per capita of $14,070 and China is right below it at $13,660 (2024 data) and in between them is the line that separates mid-high to high at $13,935! And China's per capita GNI was $13,390 in 2023, $12,860 in 2022, $11,950 in 2021 and $10,520 in 2020.
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So that basically means that China will have broken out of the middle income trap either already, just pending 2025 data release, or in 2026 at the latest!

And also, that list really does show that GNI per capita doesn't mean anything at all. Palau is above China... People wear grass underwear over there and fish for a living if they're not serving tourists at a resort.

I think China will become a high income country this year (the 2025 data release should July 1st 2026). The RMB is also appreciating at a decent pace against the USD and will hit ~7.05 RMB to 1 USD by the end of this year (it was 7.3 at the beginning of 2025) so that should contribute to China getting over this threshold (although this is more of a cosmetic threshold at this point).

 

wuguanhui

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But China is also very close to the World average in nominal GDP. If China climbs into the High Income Economy bracket, won't 1.4 billion Chinese just drag the World average up with us?
 
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abenomics12345

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Why is anyone still talking about the middle income trap - China will get to high income status, period.

The real debate right now - with respect to the points I've made wrt reflating the economy / reforming so you have national unified market / getting rid of involution / formalizing/regulating subsidies / enhancing legal protection is about trying to move the ceiling from 20K USD/capita to 30k USD/capita.
 

Xiongmao

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Why is anyone still talking about the middle income trap - China will get to high income status, period.

The real debate right now - with respect to the points I've made wrt reflating the economy / reforming so you have national unified market / getting rid of involution / formalizing/regulating subsidies / enhancing legal protection is about trying to move the ceiling from 20K USD/capita to 30k USD/capita.
Agreed, the standard definition of the middle income trap is that a country's per capita income stagnates because the country can no longer compete with low-wage countries and also does not have the high-tech industries to compete with the high income countries.

Both false in China's case, as the low-wage industries are being moved to China's hinterland to develop the Western provinces. Also it is plainly obvious that China can compete in high-tech industries such as EVs and renewable energy.
 

jli88

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Why is anyone still talking about the middle income trap - China will get to high income status, period.

The real debate right now - with respect to the points I've made wrt reflating the economy / reforming so you have national unified market / getting rid of involution / formalizing/regulating subsidies / enhancing legal protection is about trying to move the ceiling from 20K USD/capita to 30k USD/capita.

China can "escape" the middle income trap just by letting its currency appreciate. Right now its heavily depreciated.

A 20% appreciation in currency will give a 25% boost to GDP, and GDP per capita, taking GDP per capita from ~14000 to ~17500.
 

abenomics12345

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China can "escape" the middle income trap just by letting its currency appreciate. Right now its heavily depreciated.

A 20% appreciation in currency will give a 25% boost to GDP, and GDP per capita, taking GDP per capita from ~14000 to ~17500.
I'm doing everything on a constant currency basis but yes that is one method. The real likely scenario is that the USD will depreciate as the Fed continues to print and the market starts questioning Fed independence. The pièce de résistance would be if the Fed Chair was concurrently the Treasury Secretary.

This is what I wrote back in 2023, and it looks like we're on track for the 5% growth trajectory (likely to slowdown to 4.5% by say 2027/2028)
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FYI this is the math - (Key assumption is that it is calculated using 2022 constant currency - which obviously will change.)
 
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HighGround

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I think China will become a high income country this year (the 2025 data release should July 1st 2026). The RMB is also appreciating at a decent pace against the USD and will hit ~7.05 RMB to 1 USD by the end of this year (it was 7.3 at the beginning of 2025) so that should contribute to China getting over this threshold (although this is more of a cosmetic threshold at this point).


China has already escaped the Middle Income Trap. The term is also a very bad fit for very large economies that have a much greater diversity/gradients of economic development. People who think of South Korea as a very advanced country, haven't been to rural areas in Korea. Or Ireland.

The term is simply not applicable to China.

You don't have to subscribe to Glenn's hyper-optimism, but his work on really charting and visualizing the development and current status of China's growing middle-class puts the idea of "Middle Income Trap" to rest. Western economists really only care about one specific tranche of China's population as a their proxy for China's level of development, the upper-middle class, a very successful and sophisticated cultural/professional elite that's arguably been the hardest hit by recent economic developments. Their size, vibes, and general well-being is what informs the majority of Western punditry. Humorously, the women of this cohort are probably who "journalists" like Lingling Wei talks to.

Wages are growing, prices are falling, this increases income. It's not rocket science.
 

supercat

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If China's economy grows 4-5% a year, and RMB/CNY appreciates 3-4% a year, then China's effective economic growth rate is 7-9% a year. From Bloomberg:

Yuan Heads for Best Year Since 2020, Defying Trade Strains​

The offshore yuan has strengthened by nearly 4% against the dollar in 2025 as the authorities have supported the currency through their daily fixings, a rally in China stocks has lured inflows, and the dollar has weakened. Analysts remain largely bullish for 2026, with Goldman Sachs Group Inc. raising its forecasts last month.
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