Chinese Economics Thread

AndrewS

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I specifically used the word “relatively ”, because 365K isn’t a big number compared with legacy autos
There are factors like mould costs,depreciation of machinery, higher scrap rate and etc

Remember that the average car plant is around 250k vehicles per year.

Someone has actually done a comparison on single-piece aluminium castings versus stamped steel, and the casting should be cheaper.

The gigacasting numbers are summarised in this video, but there's an entire series on gigacastings on the channel.
 

mossen

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I don't know man, you are framing your own criticism of CCP as "moderate criticism" while framing people who disagree with you as "overzealous supporters"
I don't mind if people disagree with me. But whenever someone criticises Zero Covid and gets called a "hater" then I think it's legitimate to call people that throw such epiteths as overzealous.

That's what I was and still am pointing out. For some folks here, even minor criticism gets branded as "hate". Any reasonable person should be able to see this as the absurdity it is. And it's correct to call out such behaviour as overzealous because, well, it is.
 

tankphobia

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Not tier 1 cities, just Shanghai. No one bitches and moans as much as Shanghainese
Then again, here in Australia we've experienced some of the longest lockdowns in the world, even when it mostly entailed people at home collecting government bucks, I would not recommend the social isolation aspect to my worst enemies. It was bewildering to see a city practically empty for months on end. Still many died and the policy failed, so I can see the merits of continuing stopping it before it begins.
 

Petrolicious88

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I don't mind if people disagree with me. But whenever someone criticises Zero Covid and gets called a "hater" then I think it's legitimate to call people that throw such epiteths as overzealous.

That's what I was and still am pointing out. For some folks here, even minor criticism gets branded as "hate". Any reasonable person should be able to see this as the absurdity it is. And it's correct to call out such behaviour as overzealous because, well, it is.
People here are nationalistic. That’s whey they are on this forum. Most ordinary Chinese people at home don’t care this much about geopolitics. If they disagree with Zero Covid or other government policies, they keep it on the hush hush, and it’s discussed in private. Everything is tracked on Weibo/internet.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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People here are nationalistic. That’s whey they are on this forum. Most ordinary Chinese people at home don’t care this much about geopolitics. If they disagree with Zero Covid or other government policies, they keep it on the hush hush, and it’s discussed in private. Everything is tracked on Weibo/internet.
With all due respect how do you know the thinking of "average Chinese in China" that you seem or keen on insisting you know them better than people from China and in China do?

Do you have any supporting evidence to back up your claims or is this pretty much an assumptive declaration that requires no such evidence all because you're familiar with China through some kind of latent skills you possess or some shush like that.

If we're all nationalists what says about you? An internationalists? A more sober minded realist westerner? This is why your comments come off the wrong way and does rub people like myself with a WTF.

I can opine openly about Canada, U.S. because I have studied, worked, dated, lived on these two countries, been all over the place in both countries to gain some (not whole) picture of what those people are like culturally, their way of thinking, prejudices etc..better than you know about China, the governing system, the people, and the culture. You don't even pay taxes or have contributed anything meaningful to our motherland other than give your opinions on matters regarding China.

I mean dude, you're a tad too f..ng sensitive from the gentile pushbacks you're getting from most of the Chinese members here but this is a nunnery compared to the crap, racist tirade/verbal diarrhea and abuse we get on your freedom platforms called Reddit, Twitter, hosts of defense forums populated by Western supremacists that is derisive of anything Chinese Commies...frankly, we don't act like those cretins because we're not imbecillic and do like a good rational debate/discussion with geopolitics and military matters.

Personally speaking, I am just allergic to b.s. that people from the west tend to inject to support their nonsense with "Human rights, freedom, democracy" it's cringy and deranged.
 

ansy1968

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People here are nationalistic. That’s whey they are on this forum. Most ordinary Chinese people at home don’t care this much about geopolitics. If they disagree with Zero Covid or other government policies, they keep it on the hush hush, and it’s discussed in private. Everything is tracked on Weibo/internet.
For once bro we agree, who can blame us, we just discovered we are a beautiful people....lol am I right @Loveleenkr. ;)
 

getready

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Lmao I laugh when people talk of Australia lockdown like somekind of brutal torture. Rather than just minor inconvenience that it is. But coming from a suss poster I'm not surprised

To those not from Australia, I will explain to you guys that the lockdowns here were a joke. So dun be misled. People were allowed to go out for essential reasons. And those reasons were stretched every which way. People came up with any silly reason. I went to Kmart several times to buy non essential items and the police didn't stop me. If they did I would just say it's for an emergency and that would be okay. Believe me my friends got away with it.

Moreover people are allowed to go supermarkets for grocery. Allowed to go out for exercise. Heck if police questioned us we just say we going for walk in park to exercise for 20mins stretch our legs, and we would get away with it. Allowed to buy takeaways etc. It's nothing compared to China's situation.

And social isolation? Lmao..We live in an age of social media . Facebook, WhatsApp, normal calls, video calls, FaceTime whatever . Heck even my tech averse grandma joins us in zoom calls.

Sure if you are used to regular sex orgy parties , and you need that physical rubba rubba with multiple individuals then yeah, you probably can't get away with that during the lockdown but for the rest of us , we are still much connected to friends and family.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Lmao I laugh when people talk of Australia lockdown like somekind of brutal torture. Rather than just minor inconvenience that it is. But coming from a suss poster I'm not surprised

To those not from Australia, I will explain to you guys that the lockdowns here were a joke. So dun be misled. People were allowed to go out for essential reasons. And those reasons were stretched every which way. People came up with any silly reason. I went to Kmart several times to buy non essential items and the police didn't stop me. If they did I would just say it's for an emergency and that would be okay. Believe me my friends got away with it.

Moreover people are allowed to go supermarkets for grocery. Allowed to go out for exercise. Heck if police questioned us we just say we going for walk in park to exercise for 20mins stretch our legs, and we would get away with it. Allowed to buy takeaways etc. It's nothing compared to China's situation.

And social isolation? Lmao..We live in an age of social media . Facebook, WhatsApp, normal calls, video calls, FaceTime whatever . Heck even my tech averse grandma joins us in zoom calls.

Sure if you are used to regular sex orgy parties , and you need that physical rubba rubba with multiple individuals then yeah, you probably can't get away with that during the lockdown but for the rest of us , we are still much connected to friends and family.
The same is true in Toronto, Canada. Same b.s. lockdown which was nothing more than a pretend lock down. People were going to the park, the beaches, and the police were not enforcing anything whatsoever which was a freaking joke. But, the people there were incredibly irritated and inconvenienced to the umpth degree. Which I realized that these folks are nothing but fragile flakes that when the real shit hits the fan these people would literally bring chaos to hasten their own end.

There was no discipline, no camaraderie but endless complains of stupid crap. Don't even get me started with their joke of a system a.k.a. public health monitoring/surveillance/tracking system which was done so incompetently that the numbers they were reporting were for sure hugely incorrect.
 

Nutrient

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For Adidas and Nike, supporting Western fake news about Xinjiang cotton can be costly in China: "According to media reports, Adidas's first-quarter 2022 revenue decreased by 28.4 percent year over year after reaching a record high. Nike also reported negative revenue growth in China."

Young Chinese are also realizing that local brands are just as good.

A five-minute video by CGTN interviewing some young Chinese:
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Petrolicious88

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I can opine openly about Canada, U.S. because I have studied, worked, dated, lived on these two countries, been all over the place in both countries to gain some (not whole) picture of what those people are like culturally, their way of thinking, prejudices etc..
Well, you’re certainly a better man than me B. Travelled all over the place. Dated across two countries.
 
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