Chinese Economics Thread

vincent

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Say what?? $250K?? I'm getting an average of $61K for a truck driver from my search...

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Pretty sure he was talking about oil sands truck drivers up at Fort McMurry. You’ll be stuck up north in the middle of nowhere at -40c. Unless the company is willing to pay that kind of money, no one wants to be there.

even a janitor is being paid $42k a year there

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B.I.B.

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Pretty sure he was talking about oil sands truck drivers up at Fort McMurry. You’ll be stuck up north in the middle of nowhere at -40c. Unless the company is willing to pay that kind of money, no one wants to be there.

even a janitor is being paid $42k a year there

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He is better off getting a labouring job at BHP

How much does BHP in Australia pay?​

Average BHP hourly pay ranges from approximately $24.00 per hour for Executive Assistant to $27.00 per hour for Labourer. The average BHP salary ranges from approximately $65,000 per year for Administration Officer to $150,000 per year for Labourer.

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antiterror13

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He is better off getting a labouring job at BHP

How much does BHP in Australia pay?​

Average BHP hourly pay ranges from approximately $24.00 per hour for Executive Assistant to $27.00 per hour for Labourer. The average BHP salary ranges from approximately $65,000 per year for Administration Officer to $150,000 per year for Labourer.

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A$27 is a basic wage .... once you work overtime and Sat/Sun, the wage would easily be double, also there would be some allowances to work in the middle of nowhere.

A$150k for labourer is possible, but the majority won't get that much

Minimum wage in Australia is A$19.84 and in NZ is NZ$20 ... much higher than in the US
 

Litebreeze

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Honor, used to be Huawei's, now separated, will not need special approval from US department of commerce.
EU learned this the hard way, the approval only means to cut out competition from EU.

Unlike Huawei, Honor will not need special approval from the US Department of Commerce to purchase software and hardware from US companies because it is not on the US’ so-called Entity List, he said. The US government blacklisted Shenzhen-based Huawei in May 2019 over national security concerns.
 

AndrewS

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What is your opinion on which is better to use?

I assume the best way to do it would be to take everything being traded and use market exchange rates/nominal, with all goods and services made in China to be broken down into each part, supply, etc. and those produced domestically converted into the PPP equivalent of that resources price index.

If so, I assume China's actual economic size relative to the US is approximate parity as of 2020. Problem is for many high technology items nominal GDP is a better use, so China's PPP metric doesn't really align with China's ability to produce X number of planes or other high-tech stuff IMO.

It all depends on what you are trying to measure. For example

Is it living standards or military/industrial output? Then PPP is better.
Is it economic influence abroad? Then the exchange rate figures make more sense.

As for hi-tech items, I'd say PPP is better overall now.
That wasn't the case 10 years ago.
And PPP will definitely be a better measure in 5 years time.

You can see R&D is mostly wages in developed countries like Germany etc
And China is spending more on technology R&D than the USA, as per the National Science Foundation reports.

So China will likely have its own domestic tech companies in every industry in the future.

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I've previously mentioned that for a whole host of industries, China produces or consumes more than the rest of the world combined.

So in these areas, domestic output and pricing is the only logical benchmark.
Not a comparison using exchange rates with the rest of the world.
 

AndrewS

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What are your opinions on the EU-China investment deal? It seems to me like China is making huge concessions in exchange for just some tiny benefits in renewable sector

If we're honest, we all know the investment landscape was heavily in favour of China.

This was tolerated when China was a lot smaller and poorer.

So these are reasonable concessions for China to make, given where China now is, and where it is going.

Chinese companies are still be able to compete and win.
 
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