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Tyler

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What did I tell you? The West thinks it can form an alliance against China when they'll backstab their own allies just to make money from China. Like I said, the only way they can accomplish it is to pay the country losing China as their customer for their losses. Even then they'll have allies selling to China behind their backs especially those in Asia. Being greedy isn't the worst part. It's expecting everyone else not to be greedy while you are. It's like Australia whining about China pointing the finger at human rights violations at them. The problem is Australia along with their allies have bombed countries in the name of human rights. China doesn't attack countries for human rights violations. That's worse where they attack countries in name of human rights while they commit human rights violations of their own at the same time.
Why is China buying coal from Canada when the Canadians have refused to release the Huawei executive? China is already banning Canadian canola, but lobsters are still allowed.
 

Tam

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Why is China buying coal from Canada when the Canadians have refused to release the Huawei executive? China is already banning Canadian canola, but lobsters are still allowed.

China expects to get more coal from the BRI, Mongolia and Russia but the 'rona in Mongolia has caused a shutdown there. China's economic recovery is pushing factory activity and manufacturing to a surge which causes power demand and coal use at an all time high.
 

AndrewS

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China no longer depends on other countries for money while other countries have no choice but to concede to China. Do you really think the South Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, and other RCEP people love the Chinese for their generosity? No, they don't. That mentality will take decades to fix. However, they are realistic since they realized that they will quickly enter a financial crisis that will damage their economies to the point of no return if they go stupid and fight against China. Australia is the first idiot to do so. In short, this is nothing about China showing its magnanimity to other countries. This is just a natural turn of events and what happens when a country's economy (in this case, China) becomes the top dog of the world.

Please don't exaggerate.

If countries go against China, they will be hurt, but realistically they won't enter a financial crisis that damages their economies to the point of no return.

The key thing that will change the mentality towards China will be Chinese citizens becoming middle-class.
So yes, that will take at least a decade
 
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And it'll cost them more... To suggest that the West isn't in China simply because that's where they'll get the cheapest cost for outsourcing to make what they're selling is an absolute joke. Businesses aren't about humanitarianism. And let's not forget how they won't be making money from selling to China in response unless they're arrogant enough to believe China is still suppose to buy from them normally or even more now as a punishment. You think they can pass up making money for themselves. Look at Australia thinking they can insult China and still expect China to buy their products. And when China isn't collapsing like they think would happen, they'll get more angry because China made them be wrong and then they'll go to the next step. All because like the article pointed out... China didn't congratulate Biden fast enough...

Do they think Chinese companies are dumb enough not to take advantage of China's industrial competitiveness to outcompete Western companies? Unless they flat out ban Chinese companies from exporting to the West, Chinese companies will be much more economically competitive cause guess what, Western consumers are broke these days and look for the lowest costs now! You think they can beat against Ali-Express price-wise? Dream.
 
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Why does China only have 9 years of guaranteed, free, compulsory education? That basically works out to poorer students having to work at 15, no?
From what I know, Japan and China share a similar education structure with 6 years elementary, 3 years junior high, and 3 years senior high school. China only covers for the first two, but not the last one, unlike Japan which covers all three, which is kinda strange unless China guarantees vocational training as well?
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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Please don't exaggerate.

If countries go against China, they will be hurt, but realistically they won't enter a financial crisis that damages their economies to the point of no return.

The key thing that will change the mentality towards China will be Chinese citizens becoming middle-class.
So yes, that will take at least a decade
Let me rephrase it then: Hurt to the point that all parties, regardless majority or not, would have to totally transform their policy and potentially philosophy towards China, thereby slowly transforming their people's perception towards China and its people.
 

solarz

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Why does China only have 9 years of guaranteed, free, compulsory education? That basically works out to poorer students having to work at 15, no?
From what I know, Japan and China share a similar education structure with 6 years elementary, 3 years junior high, and 3 years senior high school. China only covers for the first two, but not the last one, unlike Japan which covers all three, which is kinda strange unless China guarantees vocational training as well?

9 years is simply the lowest common denominator. That means in the poorest and most remote mountain villages, they will also get 9 years of free compulsory education.

For the vast majority of the country, the tuition for the 3 years of senior high are a pittance, somewhere around 350-800 RMB per semester. The cost for university is also very affordable for most urban families, though families from poor rural areas still need to struggle.
 

OppositeDay

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Length of compulsory and free education depends on the province. Rich coastal provinces and not so rich minority areas are already implementing 12 years compulsory education. Xinjiang goes further with 15 years of free (not all compulsory) education.
 

KYli

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The problem with the US is the fact that it wanted free access to Chinese companies but wouldn't do the same if China requested.

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House passes bill that could delist Chinese companies from U.S. stock exchanges

Trump could sign the measure into law quickly, as Senate already has given its OK


The Democratic-run House of Representatives on Wednesday passed a bill that could bar many Chinese companies from listing shares on U.S. exchanges or otherwise raising money from American investors.


The measure, known as the Holding Foreign Companies Accountable Act, could get signed into law quickly by President Donald Trump, as it
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The bill aims to make foreign companies let the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board oversee the auditing of their financial records if they want to raise money by selling stocks or bonds to the U.S. public. All U.S. companies and most foreign companies already work with the PCAOB in this way, but Chinese ones
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