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Aniah

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New helicopter of some sort already under development? Not sure if military or civilian at this point though:

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China’s new helicopter is under development, says designer of Z-10 attack chopper

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Published: Mar 05, 2023 05:52 PM Updated: Mar 05, 2023 05:47 PM
WZ-10 attack helicopters attached to an army aviation brigade under the PLA 73rd Group Army lift off for a flight training exercise on May 10, 2022. The exercise focused on subjects such as emergency combat sortie, formation flight and firepower escort, aiming to beef up the troops' capability in complex conditions. Photo:China Military' capability in complex conditions. Photo:China Military

WZ-10 attack helicopters attached to an army aviation brigade under the PLA 73rd Group Army lift off for a flight training exercise on May 10, 2022. The exercise focused on subjects such as emergency combat sortie, formation flight and firepower escort, aiming to beef up the troops' capability in complex conditions. Photo:China Military

China’s new helicopter is already in the making, and Chinese helicopter designers are looking to accelerate its development, according to political advisor Wu Ximing, who is also the designer of the Z-10 attack helicopter, shortly prior to the ongoing annual Two Sessions.

“When talking about helicopter products, we should not simply develop what foreign countries have, instead we should develop what fit our country the most. They must integrate with China’s current and future development, together with technological development, so as to fit even the development in the 20 to 30 years in the future. We must accurately judge and find a position,” Wu recently told China Central Television (CCTV).

“A new product is already on its way, and I hope it can speed up. We will make constant efforts to speed it up,” Wu said.

Over the 40 years of helicopter development, Wu and his colleagues have established a pattern characterized by “exploring a generation, pre-studying a generation, designing a generation and producing a generation,” with multiple choppers under development systematically, CCTV reported.

As the chief designer of the Z-10, China’s first dedicated attack helicopter that is recognized as one of the most powerful in the world, Wu pushed forward China’s helicopter technology by 20 years.

As a member of the 14th CPPCC National Committee, Wu prepared three proposals for the ongoing Two Sessions, suggesting approving a major national project on utility aviation industry, enhancing procurement of domestically developed helicopters in the national utility aviation field and building a talent system in aviation research and development, according to the proposals viewed by the Global Times.

Utility aviation refers to civilian aviation activities other than public transport, which includes disaster relief, climate survey, maritime surveillance and scientific research. As an important part of utility aviation, helicopters are expected to have a wide development prospect, observers said.

Wu said that helicopters will also see increased applications in urban transportation and transportation in remote regions.

“They may be called electric aircraft, but at their core, they are helicopters,” Wu said.

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I hope it's a heavy attack helicopter.
 

gelgoog

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China should get itself a production license for the VK-2500 engine or make its own engine in that class and make an attack helicopter which uses it. This could be used on the LHDs. That would also make them self-reliant in terms of helicopter engine for the existing Mi helicopter fleet. China also needs a heavy transport helicopter replacement in the CH-53K class. This could use a turboshaft variant of CJ-500 engine.

After that they might consider going the tiltrotor route I think.
 

lcloo

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China should get itself a production license for the VK-2500 engine or make its own engine in that class and make an attack helicopter which uses it. This could be used on the LHDs. That would also make them self-reliant in terms of helicopter engine for the existing Mi helicopter fleet. China also needs a heavy transport helicopter replacement in the CH-53K class. This could use a turboshaft variant of CJ-500 engine.

After that they might consider going the tiltrotor route I think.
The current generation of VK-2500P-01 is rated at 1,864KW, and the latest VK-2500M which was planned to be delivered in 2023 is rated at 1,939KW.

Z-20 which has been flying for many years now is equiped with WZ-10 engine, which is rated at 2,000KW. Thus China is already self-reliant with domestic engine with similar power to that of VK-2500M which was planned to start delivery only in 2023.
 

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The current generation of VK-2500P-01 is rated at 1,864KW, and the latest VK-2500M which was planned to be delivered in 2023 is rated at 1,939KW.

Z-20 which has been flying for many years now is equiped with WZ-10 engine, which is rated at 2,000KW. Thus China is already self-reliant with domestic engine with similar power to that of VK-2500M which was planned to start delivery only in 2023.
IIRC, it's at 1600KW. It is possible that next version could be 1800KW. But regardless, 2 WZ-10 is plenty of power for a dedicated 10t attack helicopter. Z-20 right now is way overpowered compared to Blackhawk
 

lcloo

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IIRC, it's at 1600KW. It is possible that next version could be 1800KW. But regardless, 2 WZ-10 is plenty of power for a dedicated 10t attack helicopter. Z-20 right now is way overpowered compared to Blackhawk
Yes, that is correct. WZ-10's normal continuous power is 1,600KW but it can reach 2,000KW emergency maximum power while VK-2500M's normal continuous power is 1,641KW and maximum 1,939KW for take-off.

WZ-10 engine's maximum out put of 2,000KW is fuel inefficient, thus is used only in emergency need. Same for VK-2500M.

So basically WZ-10 engine is at the same level as VK-2500M.

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gelgoog

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This is pretty impressive. It looks like the machine the Russians use for coating the wing of the MC-21.
I think the Russians had their machine custom made in Europe.
Is this structure cured in or out of autoclave?
 
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