Chinese Aviation Industry


SamuraiBlue

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If Comac is put on the entity list, what does it have left? Not engines or avionics. Both ARJ21 and C919 are dead in the water. The Trump administration was considering this recently:

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In today's post COVID-19 era most all passenger airliner related industry is dead in the water for the short term anyways.
It will take another year or two to return depending on the per-longed period many of the budget airliner may not be afloat placing many of their planes into the used air frame market.
Many aviation control bodies may also change regulations to install ultra-violet lamps within the cabins to ensure sanitation of air borne virus and spacing between passengers to limit transmission within cabin which will be the last nail in the coffin for all budget airliners.
 

Rettam Stacf

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If Comac is put on the entity list, what does it have left? Not engines or avionics. Both ARJ21 and C919 are dead in the water. The Trump administration was considering this recently:

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You may want to read up on the thread "COMAC C919". There were quite a bit of discussion on this very issue a month or two ago.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Unfortunately Comac is only 15% Chinese

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If Comac is put on the entity list, what does it have left? Not engines or avionics. Both ARJ21 and C919 are dead in the water. The Trump administration was considering this recently:

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I see tidalwave is branching out from semiconductors to aerospace. Clearly a man with as many "talents" as alts.
 

SamuraiBlue

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In today's post COVID-19 era most all passenger airliner related industry is dead in the water for the short term anyways.
It will take another year or two to return depending on the per-longed period many of the budget airliner may not be afloat placing many of their planes into the used air frame market.
Many aviation control bodies may also change regulations to install ultra-violet lamps within the cabins to ensure sanitation of air borne virus and spacing between passengers to limit transmission within cabin which will be the last nail in the coffin for all budget airliners.
Although not directly related the wide spread use of tel-conferencing utilizing app such as Zoom and/or MS Teams will also have a significant effect in future passenger airliner related industry as well.
The two pillars of passenger air is tourism and corporate in which the majority for corporate is meetings/seminars.
Now that we have a way to facilitate meetings including breakout sessions with these apps. many organizers are going to re-evaluate how they are going to hold meetings since it is much more convenient and cheaper to do it online than to have people assemble to a certain location and hold those meetings cutting all travel expenses.
 

foxmulder

Junior Member
Although not directly related the wide spread use of tel-conferencing utilizing app such as Zoom and/or MS Teams will also have a significant effect in future passenger airliner related industry as well.
The two pillars of passenger air is tourism and corporate in which the majority for corporate is meetings/seminars.
Now that we have a way to facilitate meetings including breakout sessions with these apps. many organizers are going to re-evaluate how they are going to hold meetings since it is much more convenient and cheaper to do it online than to have people assemble to a certain location and hold those meetings cutting all travel expenses.
I agree the stagnation in airline industry will be quite long measured in 2-3 years. However, population is expanding and getting richer so the growth of aviation will pick up.
 

vincent

Senior Member
Although not directly related the wide spread use of tel-conferencing utilizing app such as Zoom and/or MS Teams will also have a significant effect in future passenger airliner related industry as well.
The two pillars of passenger air is tourism and corporate in which the majority for corporate is meetings/seminars.
Now that we have a way to facilitate meetings including breakout sessions with these apps. many organizers are going to re-evaluate how they are going to hold meetings since it is much more convenient and cheaper to do it online than to have people assemble to a certain location and hold those meetings cutting all travel expenses.
many executives are old school. Relationship building plays a big part of face-to-face meetings. Probably will not see much drop in air travel till the current generation of executives retired
 

SamuraiBlue

Captain
I agree the stagnation in airline industry will be quite long measured in 2-3 years. However, population is expanding and getting richer so the growth of aviation will pick up.
I agree that some tourism will come back within the next 3 -5 years (depending on how serious regulations will change) I doubt it will be back at full swing.
As for business trips, I doubt it will ever come back to preCOVID-19 levels.
 

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