Chinese Aviation Industry

Franklin

Captain
ARJ-21 maiden commercial flight photo's are in.

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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Well done China

They faced problems and delays but they never cancelled and give up

Ok they have a lot of state run company orders that didn't cancel so the project pushed ahead

Breaking the aircraft market is one of the toughest jobs now they can really turn on the style and get more units into action
 

weig2000

Captain
Well done China

They faced problems and delays but they never cancelled and give up

Ok they have a lot of state run company orders that didn't cancel so the project pushed ahead

Breaking the aircraft market is one of the toughest jobs now they can really turn on the style and get more units into action

Indeed, the civil aircraft industry is a very tough one, much harder than the military one to be successful. For the last forty years, China has given several tries: Y-10, MD-90, AE-100. China perseveres and has never given up.

As one Peking University professor who wrote the investigative report of Y-10 project and sat on the government's advisory board for large aircraft program said: this time if it takes 200 years, China should support and stick for that long!

With the booming domestic air travel market, and much better industrial base and financial backing, the ARJ and C919 projects have much chance than the last few trials.
 

Iron Man

Major
Registered Member
ARJ-21 has not yet achieved either FAA or EASA certification, however. It will only have truly made it on the world scene when it can achieve this final milestone. I have a feeling Boeing and Airbus are meddling behind the scenes to make it not easy for this to happen.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
ARJ-21 has not yet achieved either FAA or EASA certification, however. It will only have truly made it on the world scene when it can achieve this final milestone. I have a feeling Boeing and Airbus are meddling behind the scenes to make it not easy for this to happen.
Frankly speaking, even without Boeing and Airbus "meddling", there are enough politicians in US and EU who don't want to see a new competitor. It is always a leverage for bargaining.
 

tphuang

Lieutenant General
Staff member
Super Moderator
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Frankly speaking, even without Boeing and Airbus "meddling", there are enough politicians in US and EU who don't want to see a new competitor. It is always a leverage for bargaining.
nobody wants additional competition. Bombardier, Embraer and Irkut are all facing the same challenge. Frankly, ARJ-21 was an important lesson for COMAC to learn in what it takes to develop commercial aircraft, but it's just not an impressive aircraft. Stop blaming politicians if ARJ-21 doesn't do well outside of China.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
nobody wants additional competition. Bombardier, Embraer and Irkut are all facing the same challenge. Frankly, ARJ-21 was an important lesson for COMAC to learn in what it takes to develop commercial aircraft, but it's just not an impressive aircraft. Stop blaming politicians if ARJ-21 doesn't do well outside of China.

I think you somehow automatically took granted of me for "blaming politicians if ARJ-21 doesn't do well outside of China".

Political resistance is a fact under the table, nobody can deny it. The fact that your notion of "Bombardier, Embraer and Irkut all facing the same challenge" and "nobody wants additional competition" actually serves to support my point. So why debunk my point while essentially agreeing with it?

Neither was I trying to claim ARJ-21 being an impressive aircraft after being delayed for so long, a fact that even a blind person can see.

I wonder why you replied in this way, although I sense why, for that I will just leave it.

My preferred way of expressing the idea of yours, if you allow me, would be "Although possible political resistance is one challenge that ARJ-21 must face in opening over-sea market, the lack of technical and economical advantages is another challenge, even a bigger one."
 
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