.... sorry and maybe I completely misunderstand Your post - most likely for sure - but why do You think it will be some sort of ASW related flying boat ???I' think I'm simply tired ....
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.... sorry and maybe I completely misunderstand Your post - most likely for sure - but why do You think it will be some sort of ASW related flying boat ???I' think I'm simply tired ....
I' think I'm simply tired ....
Naw!, its just some hair-brained notion I have, the Radome is actually way to small and I don't see any other good stuff?? I'm prolly way off the wall here?? I'm tired too, and I have to get up at 4:00 am to pick a customer up at the train station in St. Louis at 6:00am, and deliver a new Ford truck to him, I hope I don't forget to have him sign for it???? LOL
I saw a restored Stearman Bi-Plane SN-2, that had been used during WW-II for Anti-Submarine Patrol, and PBY's and such were always on Anti-Submarine patrol??? Just something that has stuck??? in between my ears??? LOL
Very much OT:
I knew a man who told me that during WWII he flew from Colombo to Perth in a PBY, as a baby and with his mother, in more than 24 hours. That wasn't an ASW patrol.
No problem master Delft, us old heads equate the PBY and large flying boats with ASW as a matter of principle, with the Chinese launching their nuke boats on patrol, they will be shadowed 24/7 by Western assets, and I really do think the Chinese will focus all their assets on ASW.
You should read the story of the last Pan Am Clipper out of the far East as they flew West back to the US through the Middle East and Africa, to South America. Quite an adventure! LOL
This is good news for China. I wonder if the market for this plane is 1,000.
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2016-06-03 09:04 | China Daily |Editor: Feng Shuang
The domestically developed Y-20 heavy-lifting transport plane will soon be delivered to buyers, a project manager said on Thursday.
The manager expects that China will need at least 1,000 of the huge aircraft.
"I can't tell you the exact time planned for delivery, but ... it will be carried out very soon," Zhu Qian, head of Aviation Industry Corp of China's Large Aircraft Development Office, said at a technology exhibition in Beijing.
"More than 1,000 Y-20s will be needed," he said, adding that the figure was calculated based on the experience of the United States and Russia. Both countries have used heavy-lifting transport aircraft for years.
Zhu said the military and many civilian sectors will benefit greatly from delivery of the Y-20.
The plane's engines will initially be imported, but it is only a matter of time before the Y-20 is equipped with domestically developed engines, he said.
China will also develop transport jets that are even larger than the Y-20 and comparable to the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy from the United States and the Antonov An-225 Mriya, designed in the former Soviet Union.
Wang Ya'nan, deputy editor-in-chief of Aerospace Knowledge magazine, said prototypes of the Y-20 have completed all planned tests, and AVIC will begin mass-production.
"Once the Y-20 joins the military, it will enable the Air Force to move closer to its goal of building a strategic air power," he said.
The Y-20, with a crew of three, made its maiden flight in January 2013, making China the third nation after the US and Russia capable of developing strategic transport aircraft.
The plane has a maximum payload of 66 metric tons and a maximum takeoff weight of more than 200 tons, according to military sources. The high payload means it can carry the PLA's heaviest tank, the 58-ton Type-99A2.
According to a technical evaluation in Aerospace Knowledge, the Y-20 when fully fueled and carrying a payload of 51 tons can fly for 5,200 kilometers. This means it can reach everywhere in Europe and Asia, the US state of Alaska, Australia and North Africa.
With its maximum payload, it has a range of 3,700 km, enabling it to fly nonstop from Harbin in Heilongjiang province to Lhasa in the Tibet autonomous region, the report said.
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2016-06-03 09:04 | China Daily |Editor: Feng Shuang
The domestically developed Y-20 heavy-lifting transport plane will soon be delivered to buyers, a project manager said on Thursday.
The manager expects that China will need at least 1,000 of the huge aircraft.
"I can't tell you the exact time planned for delivery, but ... it will be carried out very soon," Zhu Qian, head of Aviation Industry Corp of China's Large Aircraft Development Office, said at a technology exhibition in Beijing.
"More than 1,000 Y-20s will be needed," he said, adding that the figure was calculated based on the experience of the United States and Russia. Both countries have used heavy-lifting transport aircraft for years.
Zhu said the military and many civilian sectors will benefit greatly from delivery of the Y-20.
The plane's engines will initially be imported, but it is only a matter of time before the Y-20 is equipped with domestically developed engines, he said.
China will also develop transport jets that are even larger than the Y-20 and comparable to the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy from the United States and the Antonov An-225 Mriya, designed in the former Soviet Union.
Wang Ya'nan, deputy editor-in-chief of Aerospace Knowledge magazine, said prototypes of the Y-20 have completed all planned tests, and AVIC will begin mass-production.
"Once the Y-20 joins the military, it will enable the Air Force to move closer to its goal of building a strategic air power," he said.
The Y-20, with a crew of three, made its maiden flight in January 2013, making China the third nation after the US and Russia capable of developing strategic transport aircraft.
The plane has a maximum payload of 66 metric tons and a maximum takeoff weight of more than 200 tons, according to military sources. The high payload means it can carry the PLA's heaviest tank, the 58-ton Type-99A2.
According to a technical evaluation in Aerospace Knowledge, the Y-20 when fully fueled and carrying a payload of 51 tons can fly for 5,200 kilometers. This means it can reach everywhere in Europe and Asia, the US state of Alaska, Australia and North Africa.
With its maximum payload, it has a range of 3,700 km, enabling it to fly nonstop from Harbin in Heilongjiang province to Lhasa in the Tibet autonomous region, the report said.
Indeed ... I read that report too.
However even if I for myself assume the domestic need quite high, I can't think that the PLAAF would get more than about 200, what alone would require a fully re-organisation and expansion of their Divisions, and other Chinese civil operators another few maybe close to hundred and then export maybe.
Altogether I would say, about 300-400 would be already a huge success ... but 1000 !??
However even if I for myself assume the domestic need quite high, I can't think that the PLAAF would get more than about 200, what alone would require a fully re-organisation and expansion of their Divisions, and other Chinese civil operators another few maybe close to hundred and then export maybe.
Altogether I would say, about 300-400 would be already a huge success ... but 1000 !??
antiterror13
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there is no chance the production would reach 1,000 .... I think PLAAF will need around 150-200 ... with that, it would change the concept/doctrine of PLA as a whole ... PLA wouldn't need too many soldiers and the mobility of elite soldiers will be very high, so less soldiers required ... it means more fund could go to high tech weapons and soldiers benefits ...... very good news
Report specifically mentioned china's need, so i'm guessing that's a projection without possible exports. But it also may very well include non transport variants for military and it may include commercial/non military transport variants - just like hundreds of them were made of il76 during USSR. Today's PLA doesn't need many. But PLA of 2050? Coupled with commercial need, i could definitely see hundreds being made, possibly topping 500 by then. A thousand, granted, does seem like a very, very, optimistic market projection.
antiterror13
Brigadier
true ... but by 2050, a totally new design will emerge, much much better than Y-20
