Chinese 96-A


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International Exchanges and Cooperation:494 NUE has established good partnerships with domestic universities such as Tsinghua University and Huazhong University of Science and Technology to jointly cultivate master’s and doctoral students and carry out scientific research cooperation. More than 150 people have visited or studied abroad in Russia, South Korea, the United States, and other countries. More than 200 faculty members and cadets have visited the United States, Singapore, Russia, and other countries on the Zhenghe Training Ship. Several dozen foreign military delegations have visited NUE. NUE has also trained nearly 1,000 international students from Bangladesh, Vietnam, Tanzania, Congo, and other countries.
 

ougoah

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According to the interview around 42 defects have been discovered over the course of five tournaments. To answer your question, the track conditions at Tank Biathlon is a lot more strenuous than regular tank training conditions. For instance I don’t think that tanks during normal training s would fly off 45 degree ramps or stay semi-submerged for 20 yards. With hardware some problems are difficult to manifest and not easily reproducible. Each Tank Biathlon match only lasts around an hour and there around four of them till the finals. Distribute that among three tanks you get a hand of hours per vehicle.

I too was surprised that Vietnam still sends soldiers to the Chinese military schools but I guess relations have eased somewhat post Sino-Vietnamese border conflicts despite the two countries being at logger heads over SCS Islands. As for why Vietnam needs to send soldiers abroad, I think that it is probably due to resource limitations. Until the T-90 purchase Vietnam didn’t really operate any third generation tanks, and even afterwards the bulk of their gear are Cold War era Soviet designs. I’m pretty sure that Vietnam also sends students to Russia but in the case of this particular tank biathlon commander, he graduated from Shijiazhuang and reportedly has a semi-Chinese fashion sense.

So the PLA doesn't push the Type 96 as hard as they do during the biathlon. That's disappointing if true. To only realise there is a need to fix the fume extractor from the 2A46 after participating in biathlons screams they don't train properly at home. I always called that issue with the 2A46 based guns. The videos of 96 always shows hatch open because the fumes aren't totally extracted. Granted western tanks don't do it perfectly either, they are miles better than the 96 using the 2A46.

The type 99's ZPT-98 somehow does this better. All the videos of crew compartment showing ZPT-98 firing, has almost western gun extractor performance. Either the PLA training with at least 96 isn't reflective of real combat conditions or the rumours aren't accurate and they have known about the fume extractor issue (no doubt) and simply haven't gotten around to correcting it and it just sounds good to say the biathlon is useful... look we've found this flaw.

Maybe the extractor designs themselves are as good as they can be but it is an issue with propellant. The ZPT-98 does do it better somehow which seems to suggest that isn't the issue.

Anyway Russians asking Chinese team to slow down makes sense since everyone is using upgraded T-72s. The Type 96B has a better and more torque-y engine. It isn't exactly fair for the other teams. The Russian team might use a better T-72 with more horsepower and P/W compared to other teams but overall both China and Russia have significant mobility advantage over the others. Russia also uses this as a sales event on the side where other nations can view the performance of the later T-72s available for purchase if they so wish. It isn't surprising they would prefer to win with their tank and isn't surprising China has no issues complying. It's their event and they're are spending money hosting everyone to build some political goodwill and create an opportunity for poorer customers to upgrade their aging fleets to the latest T-72s.
 
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DeXM

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ZTZ96B during "Танковый Биатлон 2021"

18:51- We can obviously see It's start reverse, taking into account GPS data, it's about 13 kp/h. What does it mean? Well, I suppose, 96B have CH700 transmission (the main difference betwen CH700 and CH1000 is the amount of power it could handle)


And the second one

14:31 - It's about 12 kp/h of reverse

 

Orthan

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Did anyone doubt that the russians would win?

The crew performed mediocrely in the finale, possibly due to how muddy the track was following torrential rain.
The other teams performed in the same track as the chinese team. That doesnt excuse anything.
 

siegecrossbow

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Did anyone doubt that the russians would win?


The other teams performed in the same track as the chinese team. That doesnt excuse anything.
The game is rigged but this year Russia didn't have to resort to any underhanded tactics to win. I'd say they won fair and square this year and the only year that they didn't is 2020. In other years they had at least 5 to 10 minute lead over the other teams so it didn't really matter.

Yeah they performed just as badly. Azerbaijian missed around half the targets and both their team and Kazhakstan suffered tank breakdown. The machine gun stopped working for the Kazakstan team as well half way into the competition. Track familiarity for the Russians is a major boon for them since they can drive more aggressively under inclement conditions than the other teams. Just compare their performance during the semi-finals with that of the finals.
 

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