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halflife3

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Then that source must be incorrect in its findings. Ukraine never built T-72s. All T-72s Ukraine possessed were stocks that were inherited after the USSR collapsed. The USSR had three tank design bureaus: Kharkov, Uralvagonzavod, and Omsk. Post-Soviet period, Ukraine inherited Kharkov and Russia inherited the other two. During the Soviet period, Kharkov designed the T-64, Uralvagonzavod designed the T-72, and Omsk designed the T-80. Since Ukraine lacks the infrastructure to support the T-72s, they were sold off.
 

silentlurker

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Then that source must be incorrect in its findings. Ukraine never built T-72s. All T-72s Ukraine possessed were stocks that were inherited after the USSR collapsed. The USSR had three tank design bureaus: Kharkov, Uralvagonzavod, and Omsk. Post-Soviet period, Ukraine inherited Kharkov and Russia inherited the other two. During the Soviet period, Kharkov designed the T-64, Uralvagonzavod designed the T-72, and Omsk designed the T-80. Since Ukraine lacks the infrastructure to support the T-72s, they were sold off.
Yes, that was the motivation behind Ukraine selling their T72s to South Sudan, I don't see how that contradicts with anything I said
 

FishWings

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The source linked says they were old base model T72s from Ukraine, not T72As, which are 70s era tanks. Type 85-IIMs started production in 1990 so I would expect the Type 85 to win but that probably means not much when comparing the newest models.

The pictures that show the wrecked tanks (maybe not in the linked source or video, but available online) show that they were T-72AVs. So more likely than not, they were produced in the early 1980s before T-72B replaced it on the production lines.

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These are some pics of them
 

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It mentioned a Interview in CCTV where tankers talked about inefficiency in PLA tank doctrine?
 

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, T-72AV from Ukraine and T-72 from Russia

Nothing shows up for T-72s from Russia to South Sudan on SIPRI ATD. That report is more probably false than true, unless it SIPRI just missed it. Maybe someone w/ the The Military Balance 2020 here can confirm whether the numbers match up or not. Wiki says they have 110, which suggests that the deal probably didn't go through in the end.

If the report was true though, Russia would most likely be selling some sort of T-72B instead, judging by their exports since 2010 or so. Oldest version they sold ever since was still the T-72A variant to Mongolia only IIRC, but no buyers of the original Ural variants since then (and for good reason; either you spend more to get even a T-72B1, or save more and get a refurbished T-55 instead).
 

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