China's Space Program Thread II

Michael90

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One year anniversary of the mishap. Tianbing has become the butt of jokes in the Chinese space community, receiving regular ribbing from fellow launch startups and observers whenever the topic of safety is broached.

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Seriously, it’s silly for Chinese space community and even more so other space startups to be making fun of the other’s failure. Failure is normal in space industry especially when you are still testing/building a new rocket. So for them to be making fun of this is wrong. It might discourage other private space players from taking risks and daring to venture into newer more ground breaking projects and instead adopting a more conservative mindset of adopting only tried and tested solutions(essentially being eternal followers ) for fear of failure
Failure should not being laughed at but instead seen as just an inevitable necessary learning curve and be encouraged . If not space X will not be where they are today if they were scared of failures and risks or venturing into projects which nobody thought was feasible before
 

by78

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Seriously, it’s silly for Chinese space community and even more so other space startups to be making fun of the other’s failure. Failure is normal in space industry especially when you are still testing/building a new rocket. So for them to be making fun of this is wrong. It might discourage other private space players from taking risks and daring to venture into newer more ground breaking projects and instead adopting a more conservative mindset of adopting only tried and tested solutions(essentially being eternal followers ) for fear of failure
Failure should not being laughed at but instead seen as just an inevitable necessary learning curve and be encouraged . If not space X will not be where they are today if they were scared of failures and risks or venturing into projects which nobody thought was feasible before

It doesn't apply to this particular mishap, the nature of which is laughable and should be laughed at.
 
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taxiya

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Is this true? Because this is huge, if true. I haven't seen mention of it in the past 10 pages, but maybe I missed it.


Historic First: China Successfully Refuels Satellite at 36,000 KM in Space!​


China has just completed what may be the first-ever satellite refueling mission in geostationary orbit—an event that could transform space operations as we know them. In this episode, we break down how satellite SJ-25 successfully transferred 142 kg of hydrazine to SJ-21, extending its lifespan by 8 years. This maneuver was tracked by commercial space monitoring firms and marks a major step forward in orbital logistics and sustainability. With more satellites operating in critical GEO slots, this technology opens the door to longer missions, fewer replacements, and a new future of space servicing. Whether you're a space enthusiast or just curious how this changes global capabilities, this is one breakthrough you don't want to miss!"

It was launched in the begining of 2025 for "space refeuling and maintenance to non-cooperative objects".
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ENTED64

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Seriously, it’s silly for Chinese space community and even more so other space startups to be making fun of the other’s failure. Failure is normal in space industry especially when you are still testing/building a new rocket. So for them to be making fun of this is wrong. It might discourage other private space players from taking risks and daring to venture into newer more ground breaking projects and instead adopting a more conservative mindset of adopting only tried and tested solutions(essentially being eternal followers ) for fear of failure
Failure should not being laughed at but instead seen as just an inevitable necessary learning curve and be encouraged . If not space X will not be where they are today if they were scared of failures and risks or venturing into projects which nobody thought was feasible before
Nobody is laughing at them because a rocket failed, indeed as you say failure is common in the space industry and many chinese startups have failed launches. But that's not what happened in this case. In this case it was a static test that was never meant to fly but it broke free and flew anyway, an unsafe situation for all involved. This is not your typical rocket launch failed situation, indeed I can't think of any other recent "static" test mishaps that resulted in the rocket flying. So this is definitely an unusual failure that can deservedly be mocked.
 

bjj_starter

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Seriously, it’s silly for Chinese space community and even more so other space startups to be making fun of the other’s failure. Failure is normal in space industry especially when you are still testing/building a new rocket. So for them to be making fun of this is wrong. It might discourage other private space players from taking risks and daring to venture into newer more ground breaking projects and instead adopting a more conservative mindset of adopting only tried and tested solutions(essentially being eternal followers ) for fear of failure
Failure should not being laughed at but instead seen as just an inevitable necessary learning curve and be encouraged . If not space X will not be where they are today if they were scared of failures and risks or venturing into projects which nobody thought was feasible before

I think there's an ideal level of risk-acceptance that SpaceX tends to hover around, sometimes above and sometimes below. Old Space (Boeing, Lockheed, NASA, etc) are way below that level & their conservatism is killing their viability in launch (/procurement, for NASA). Tianbing was way above that level & needs to be more conservative to actually make progress, unless they want to transition into fireworks manufacturing.

If it helps to think about it this way, you could say Old Space is right deviationist and Tianbing is left deviationist
 
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