China's Space Program Thread II

Asug

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Yes, that makes sense. The CZ-10As just need to have their own 'Y' numbers.
I would knock out a few CZ-10A (no boosters) missions carrying cargo (inside the Mengzhou) to the space station first to get some more flight data logged. Maybe possibly a crew exchange mission to the space station too. Anything goes wrong, shorter distance to the ground.
 

taxiya

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China has successfully and completely (intact) recovered a CZ3B first-stage rocket under its parafoil-based recovery program.
Are you sure it is "intact"? From what I've read the Chinese article, it only said "accurately landed in designated area". From the photo it can be seen that the terrain is rough with tree trunks and rocks, I can't image a thin skinned tank land without deformation.

Of course, in the future when it lands on a prepared site with airbags or some ground cushion it can be intact, but not this time.
 
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taxiya

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I would knock out a few CZ-10A (no boosters) missions carrying cargo (inside the Mengzhou) to the space station first to get some more flight data logged. Maybe possibly a crew exchange mission to the space station too. Anything goes wrong, shorter distance to the ground.
CZ-10A will fly a year earlier than CZ-10Y1 and the payload is almost certainly to be Mengzhou. We just don't know how many CZ-10A will fly before CZ-10Y1 though. But from the past experience, max two CZ-10A should be enough or already in the plan. For example, from what I've heard Shenzhou planned 3 uncrewed flights, it added the 4th uncrewed flight due to some problem was observed in the 3rd flight. So Mengzhou would plan 3 uncrewed flights, they are all in stated launches, 1st on CZ-10A, 2nd on CZ-10Y1, 3rd on CZ-10Y2,3 mock landing, 4th would be for crew landing. If anything not right, an extra CZ-10 or 10A can be added. So I agree with your concern, but I also think that is already coverred in this roadmap presented.
 

escobar

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SJ-16 and SJ-6 are all SIGINT/ELINT. Shiyan 6-1/2/3 (for optical surveillance of artificial space objects), Shiyan-13, Shiyan 20A 20B 20C, Shiyan-23 (equipped with a panoramic visible-range detection system) are LEO SSA satellites.
6 New SSA sats. Shiyan-27A/B/C/D/E/F launched for space environment detection and related technical tests.
 

nativechicken

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Are you sure it is "intact"? From what I've read the Chinese article, it only said "accurately landed in designated area". From the photo it can be seen that the terrain is rough with tree trunks and rocks, I can't image a thin skinned tank land without deformation.

Of course, in the future when it lands on a prepared site with airbags or some ground cushion it can be intact, but not this time.
From the image, it should be a bundled booster rocket, the one with 2-3 tons.
Non destructive recycling is the official term used.
As a rocket fueled by toxic substances, the engine is completely disposable, meaning that once the fuel is added to the pipeline, the engine cannot be reused. So the so-called non-destructive recovery only ensures that the fuel tank is not damaged during landing, which poses a risk of pollution. It doesn't mean that rockets can be reused. This is just a validation of the K1 rocket technology roadmap.
 

by78

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High-resolution images from the launch of six Shiyan-27 (01 to 06) satellites earlier today. The launch was carried out by a Long March 6A. The satellites will be used to carry out studies on the space environments, verify key technologies, and conduct related experiments. This was the 570th flight of the Long March series.

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by78

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China Rocket Corp., the commercial space launch subsidiary of CASC, has finished Phase II expansion of its solid rocket production base at Haiyang. Located next to the Haiyang Commercial Spaceport, the base has passed reviews and will become operational soon and have a production capacity for 20 rockets per year.

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taxiya

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From the image, it should be a bundled booster rocket, the one with 2-3 tons.
Non destructive recycling is the official term used.
As a rocket fueled by toxic substances, the engine is completely disposable, meaning that once the fuel is added to the pipeline, the engine cannot be reused. So the so-called non-destructive recovery only ensures that the fuel tank is not damaged during landing, which poses a risk of pollution. It doesn't mean that rockets can be reused. This is just a validation of the K1 rocket technology roadmap.
Just to be clear, my question was about you adding the word "intact". I did not argue about whether the rocket can be reused or if CASC has the intention of reusing it.

What you discribed here is the state of "complete" that is the whole thing is in one piece not broken in multiple pieces as the official article stated.

Intact in general English usage as far as I have learnt and heard has more meaning than just complete, see
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"complete and in the original state" or "not damaged or destroyed"
By "intact" you have given me the impression more than what you explained here. The wording is important as it means very different purpose and objective, therefor I asked the question. It is good now that I know what you actually mean.
 
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