China's Space Program News Thread

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Gollevainen

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Sorry to all, David_Cameron seems to be some sort of pothead or otherwise more into inner space than outerspace person:rolleyes: :rolleyes: ....I wonder Why I haven't banned him yet, but it would be corrected...

You wouldnt propaply know it as you all are so new in here, but all sort of lasers and killer satelites have really nasty echo howling in our vaults....So please no more talk of this sort of sillyness.
 

StevenVogler

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It seems to be doing some orbital maneauvers right now. If there's any problem, doesn't look like it's with the power unit.

Combat Satelittes with Mini-Nuclear-Reactors-Engines or Solar-Engines, Solar-Cells-Engines and Laserguns and Missiles !
It also Satelittes with Mini-Nuclear-Reactors-Engines, which was sent to the sowing, satrun run !
Solar-Engines, Solar-Cells-Engines have more Energy, Power, Efficiencies in space than, as on the earth !

I think that CHINA or JAPAN can to build on Combat Satelittes for self-defense! CHINA and JAPAN have the last 40 years more, most to reaching, than that the western countries in the last 4000 years ! Problem is only, that but CHINA and JAPAN are Enemies, Opponents, over this can western countries do are pleased this and work for produce problems everywhere in the world !
I think that CHINA is mordernes country and wants this to also remain, and become even more mordernes ! Western countries will go back into the stone time ! In all western countries takes anti-technology-activists-groups that will go back into the stone time, this is a problem, but China is not none the problem, a threatening now gene will become !
If I would be scientist, will new technologies for military defense, energy produce, energy supplying, environmental protection, environmental restore, Medizi supply, transportation develop for CHINA or JAPAN to rather develop, because CHINA or JAPAN will would be to use ! western countries do block-guessed/advised these then landlord-crept uses and further to develop, into that western of countries this work and forbidden, or stated that, goes not !

CHINA OR JAPAN IS ON THE CORRECT WAY, BUT THOSE WESTERN OF COUNTRIES ON THE WRONG WAY !
 
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Gollevainen

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Ok no more killersatelites Or I close the thread! This the last warning to your all!!!!:mad: :mad:
 

Violet Oboe

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China will establish a fourth launching base on Hainan island becoming operational in 2010 and the new base will be the home for the CZ-5 launchers of the 25ts LEO class. Rumours are also around that after 2010 the launches for the manned program will be relocated from Jiuquan to Hainan.

Maintaining four space bases 1.Jiuquan (manned + military) 2, Xichang (civil and mil GEO), 3. Taiyuan (mil polar orbits) and 4.Hainan (new heavy launcher, perhaps future moon launch base?) is certainly a heavy commitment only justifiable if China expands her annual launches from 6-8 to around 12-18. The next few years will be very busy for chinese rocketeers and we may see in the coming five years as many launches as in all of the last twenty!:coffee:

Hopefully the major powers (US, Russia, China) will negotiate a new space treaty limiting and controlling the use of Near Earth Space after a new administration has taken over in Washington in ´09. Things will probably get badly out of hand if an instable three or even four way (India!) arms race emerges in the next decade! :nono:
 

maozedong

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The Chinese official media Wednesday (on 7th) reports said that, China has chosen a location in Hainan Island, prepares to establish the China fourth satellite launch center in there. On the other hand, the world consensus generally believed that, China's succeeded on the other day the launch BeiDou navigation experiment satellite, symbolized America, Russia, Europe, center four strongly strove for hegemony on the satellite navigational system the pattern already to form. Hainan Province agent Governor Luo Baoming said that, the new satellite launching base will construct is leaving the Hainan provincial capital seaport about 60 kilometers RunChaung. Xinhua News Agency reports said that, RenChang the satellite launch center also will include an outer space subject scientific park, a rocket assembly plant and a control center. The new selected location has the important practical value China at present altogether has three satellite launch center, in Sichuan Xichang, in Gansu Jiuquan, but also some in Shanxi provincial capital Taiyuan. Early time some reports said that, the Hainan comparatively backward economy mainly is relies on the tourism and the agriculture, therefore, the Hainan authority to the central authorities solicit, hoped central can elect the new satellite launch center location in Hainan, thus stimulates local the economy. At present the Hainan government already decided on the visit RenChang satellite launching base the admission ticket price, a ticket price reached as high as 500 Yuan. China military expert, American gram 莱蒙 research institute Asia center researcher Lin Changsheng when accepts the interview said that, China establishes the new satellite launch site in Hainan to have the very vital significance. He said, although China passes in Sichuan, Gansu and Shanxi respectively has a satellite launch site, but these three launch sites all have several disadvantageously place. One is they all occupies on the high track, the launch satellite rocket power was inferior to the low track is strong; Two is because the Chinese present launch vehicle more does in a big way, all has no way in the inland very many bridges culvert to pass, the transportation is inconvenient; Three is 11,000 launches appears the breakdown, the inland population density is high, when rocket whereabouts can cause the local resident to be injured. Lin Changsheng believed above, can avoid the question in the Hainan establishment satellite launch site. He said that, "first, Hainan approaches the equator, the earth rotation kinetic energy quite is strong, therefore the rocket may launch with the same fuel launch satellite the satellite high, but is not good in the high track; Second is transports conveniently, it may through the sea transportation, not the bridge, the culvert influence; Third, after it launched arrived the sea sky, if has been defeated also is falls on marine, could not to the inhabitant which launched under the track pose the threat. Therefore, China has the very big benefit in the Hainan establishment rocket launching base. The "China advances into the satellite navigation four to be strong On the other hand, this February 3 0 28 minute, China launch vehicle successfully delivers in the Xichang satellite launch center with "the Long March third armor" the BeiDou navigation experiment satellite the outer space. The Xi'an satellite observation and control center transmits the data indicated that, the satellite accurately enters prearranges the track. Country's the and so on US, Russia, England, France mainstream media and the Hong Kong and Taiwan media rapidly reported the Chinese this success launch satellite news. The world consensus generally believed that, this symbolized China's BeiDou satellite navigational system greatly advanced a step to front, forms America, Russia, Europe, center four strongly strives for hegemony on the satellite navigational system the pattern. China military expert Lin Changsheng believed that, this kind four strongly strives for hegemony the pattern view to make the sense, because before this dubhe satellite launch, China has already launched four BeiDou navigation satellite, these satellites belong to the first generation, they with American, Russian and Europe's satellite compare also have the very big disparity, because they also pause in the high track and the region use stage, only can in the Asian and Pacific area navigation. Lin Changsheng pointed out that, this secondary emission BeiDou satellite in the technical stratification plane already with America's, Russia, Europe's satellite belonged to a scale. He said that, "recently launched this new BeiDou satellite was the second-generation, also was BeiDou-2. The BeiDou-2 satellites are similar to American and Russia's satellite, belongs globally, also is the low track. Then, this satellite if experiments successful, new BeiDou-2 on such form the global character like GPS to guide Chinese international pioneer 导报 to report said, looked from the present competition pattern, US develops in the world first whole world satellite navigational system GPS or occupies the dominant position without doubt, but its superiority substitutes for by Russia's standard Luo river natrium Si and European Union's Galileo as well as China's BeiDou satellite navigational system. Looked from the technology and the application prospect that, four big systems respectively have the fit and unfit quality, if GPS wins in maturely, Galileo wins fine in, then the standard Luo river natrium Si's greatest value lies in the antijamming ability to be strong, but China's BeiDou satellite navigational system superiority lies in the interaction and openness.
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maozedong

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There has been speculation on Chinese Internet that the BD navigation satellite lauched on 03/02 is not working properly. The power unit onboard the satellite failed to start. This has not been confirmed yet but I guess that the ground control is trying whatever they can to fix the problem, though looking at previous similar failure the chance is very slim.

If this is true, it would be two satellite failure in a row after the failed DFH-4 last year

三、北斗1D出了什么问题

  上次鑫诺二号是在最后一步精确定位时出的问题,据说是太阳能帆板二次打开出了故障。

  这次更惨,竟然在同步转移轨道上就挂了!

  静止卫星从发射到定点成功的总时间有长有短,8天10天不算什么。但作为需要四次转轨的北斗二号,这么多天还在同步转移轨道上转悠,那就已经没戏了。网友们从第四天开始担心,从第五天开始骂娘,还是有一定道理的。

  官方没有任何消息。小道消息说是电源系统故障,但太阳能帆板已经打开。我们不知是否真实,只能说没看出这消息与观察到的情况有什么矛盾之处。

  以前我们出过姿态失控问题,但只要有电有燃料,卫星总是有救的。正常情况下是地面发指令而卫星自主动作,如果不行可以切换为星地大回路的控制方式,把它给稳下来。但现在这么多天过去,应该能想的招都想了,居然没解决问题,恐怕不是简单的姿态控制问题。

this is the article speculate BeiDou-2 navigation satelite not working properly.
it says BD-2 should change the track 4 times in space but it can not do it.
the sources speculat power unit onboard has problem.
 

maozedong

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The expert called China can deliver in 15 years the astronaut Moon
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on March 06, 2007 09:09 New China net New China net Beijing, March 6 - (Reporter Wang Yang) nation commissar of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, Chinese man-in-space flight project booster system original commander in chief Huang Chunping on 6th said, China has had in 15 years delivers the astronaut the Moon the technical ability. Huang Chunping once held the post of China launch vehicle technical institute vice-president, he when accepted Xinhua News Agency reporter the interview said, arrived, the project in the fund on time starts and so on under the ideal condition, China completely had the ability to escort to in 15 years man-in-space flight the Moon.
 

a.rahman

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the bottom of the ocean could be the future if they find a cheap energy source to power the world. and produce lots of other resources we want.. then u'll start seeing people investing in researching tech to build cities under the ocean. it's not about what's the future, it's about where resources could be found. we know that the moon have He-3, which is one of the reasons why people want to go there, because it's a good energy source. and outer space offer more living space. if ocean floor can offer that same, people would spend a lot more money on the R&D of it too.

I am guessing that He-3 is some kind of helium isotope; but what will it be used for? and will it be economical for the space ship to bring back natural resources from the moon?
 

Scratch

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I am guessing that He-3 is some kind of helium isotope; but what will it be used for? and will it be economical for the space ship to bring back natural resources from the moon?

He-3 could be used in nuclear fusion research and later in the power plants for example. Bringing natural resources down on earth might at first be just for scientific purposes, since it is very expensive.
In a further future however (and I might some decades at least) it might become economical to "import" resources from the moon for production. That will raise the interesting question of who has the rights.
I think according to UN the moon is a "heritage of mankind" (not sure of english expression). Then one can ask how those resources are to be shared.
But that's probably not the point of this topic.
 
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