China's Space Program News Thread

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Colonel
Western media is really exaggerating how the LM rocket stage is falling back to earth in an uncontrolled manner. Rocket stages have been reentering and falling back to earth in an "uncontrolled manner" for decades. It's just that the LM rocket stage happened to be the largest or one of the largest in recent decades since no other country has been sending Space Station module-sized payload to orbit since the time of the construction of the ISS.


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Cat NoDesignationName
(SpaceTrack)
Predicted
Date
Prediction
Issued
48275​
2021-035BCZ-5B R/B2021 May 92021 May 9
44430​
1998-067QQVCC C2021 May 102021 May 5
44073​
2019-016AR3D22021 May 222021 May 5
44275​
2019-029ASSTARLINK-642021 Jun 12021 May 5
45749​
2020-038VSTARLINK-15162021 Jun 62021 May 5
46729​
2020-073BMSTARLINK-18412021 Jun 72021 May 5
47203​
2020-089BH-2A R/B2021 Jun 72021 May 5
25586​
1998-075BARIANE 42L R/B2021 Jun 112021 May 5
43547​
1998-067NVTEMPEST-D2021 Jun 132021 May 5
46390​
2020-063BCZ-2F R/B2021 Jun 152021 May 5
33450​
2008-062DSL-6 R/B(2)2021 Jun 192021 May 5
44187​
2019-021BFALCON 9 R/B2021 Jun 202021 May 5
43640​
1998-067PQSTARS-ME2021 Jun 212021 May 5
46739​
2020-074ASTARLINK-18472021 Jun 222021 May 5
43451​
2018-041BCZ-3B R/B2021 Jun 262021 May 5
44279​
2019-029AWSTARLINK-682021 Jun 282021 May 5
44074​
2019-016BELECTRON KICK STAGE R/B2021 Jul 12021 May 5

Recent Re-entries
This table lists major re-entries that occurred in the last 30 days, whether natural or deliberate. Information is provided by Space-Track and the list is updated frequently.
Cat NoDesignationName (SpaceTrack)Actual
Date
43209​
2018-018C​
CZ-3B R/B2021 May 3
46920​
2020-084A​
DRAGON RESILIENCE2021 May 2
45595​
2020-026A​
PROGRESS MS-142021 Apr 29
44371​
2019-037G​
SPACEBEE-82021 Apr 26
25330​
1998-027D​
SL-6 R/B(2)2021 Apr 23
25723​
1999-022C​
SL-8 R/B2021 Apr 23
44750​
2019-074AP​
STARLINK-10452021 Apr 23
35008​
2009-029A​
MERIDIAN 22021 Apr 23
44289​
2019-029BG​
STARLINK-482021 Apr 18
47176​
2020-088BG​
STARLINK-19002021 Apr 17
46613​
2020-072A​
SOYUZ MS-172021 Apr 17
44033​
1998-067PZ​
CATSAT-12021 Apr 13
44029​
1998-067PV​
CATSAT-22021 Apr 13
48160​
2021-029B​
SL-4 R/B2021 Apr 13
44240​
2019-029F​
STARLINK-262021 Apr 10

Note on TIP Messages
Close to re-entry time for many items, SpaceTrack issues TIP Messages with a more-precise warning of the event. The meaning of the 'TIP' acronym is lost in history but SpaceTrack has made a guess at Tracking and Impact Prediction. ”Time and Impact Prediction” is also more than possible.
The message includes an estimated latitude and longitude for when the object will go through a height of ten kilometres above the ground. It is NOT an estimate of the impact point for debris. In most cases, it is meaningless because of the length of the Window included in the message.
TIP Messages are often a source of confusion as people take the predicted time literally and ignore the error margin (Window) that is also part of the message. In 2011 RIA-Novosti used a TIP Message, issued several weeks in advance, to pinpoint a village in North Africa, doggedly insisting that it would feel the full force of of Phobos-Grunt’s re-entry. SpaceTrack's Window was ±2 days, representing over one million kilometres of ground track and a large proportion of the Earth's surface between 52° North and 52° South.

 
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siegecrossbow

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Western media is really exaggerating how the LM rocket stage is falling back to earth in an uncontrolled manner. Rocket stages have been reentering and falling back to earth in an "uncontrolled manner" for decades. It's just that the LM rocket stage happened to be the largest or one of the largest in recent decades since no other country has been sending Space Station module-sized payload to orbit since the time of the construction of the ISS.

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I think in the case of LM it is unique since it only has one stage and boosters.
 

windsclouds2030

Senior Member
Registered Member
Let us watch how a fully controlled cinematic light show is displayed over the night sky of Seattle before its' precisely controlled landing into a unoccupied area of a farm in East Washington.

Sarcasm by the way.

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Like Henri Kehnmann of the East Pendulum said, it's purely nuance! :p

I know the French former engineer of Airbus reads SDF. Salut Henri!
 

xiabonan

Junior Member
I think the Western MSM at this point is just trying every single thing it can to smear China and see which one sticks. A month ago everyone was talking about Xinjiang and how there's a "genocide" in XJ. Then suddently all the talk seemed to have stopped. Then it's "war with Taiwan". Then LM5's re-entry. Who knows, maybe next week it's XJ again for f**k sake.
 

Quickie

Colonel
I think in the case of LM it is unique since it only has one stage and boosters.

That's what the propaganda out there is saying.

It's functionally two-stage since most of the thrust comes from the boosters with the accompanying fuel/oxidizer propellants at the start of the launching.

The Proton rocket that sent the ISS Russian Space Station modules is of the same configuration with side boosters.
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
I hope the next launches go smoothly....

I really cant stand another 10 more of these fake outrages..
I even had normal people who are "casuals" mention me this rocket falling on their heads..

Like dude, go back into watching football/basketball or whatever sport and stop spreading bs about stuff you dont know

Western propaganda machine is very powerful
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
I hope the next launches go smoothly....

I really cant stand another 10 more of these fake outrages..
I even had normal people who are "casuals" mention me this rocket falling on their heads..

Like dude, go back into watching football/basketball or whatever sport and stop spreading bs about stuff you dont know

Western propaganda machine is very powerful

God forbid if any little hiccups happen with the Zhurong lander later this month. If they call spin so much B.S. for a non-event, imagine what they'll do if the probe crashes or malfunctions.
 

lube

Junior Member
Registered Member
Realistically, the majority of people who paid attention tuned away when it said it landed in the ocean.

Lots of disappointment from the space watchers who are repeating "China got lucky".
Maybe they just like disaster porn, or they want to see consequences for things they don't like.
Kinda horrid either way for these so-called intellectuals.
 

ougoah

Brigadier
Registered Member
I hope the next launches go smoothly....

I really cant stand another 10 more of these fake outrages..
I even had normal people who are "casuals" mention me this rocket falling on their heads..

Like dude, go back into watching football/basketball or whatever sport and stop spreading bs about stuff you dont know

Western propaganda machine is very powerful

This launch went smoothly. Unless the CZ-5B has some steerability built into the rocket stage that reached orbit, literally nothing went wrong with this launch. It delivered the payload to desired orbit and the payload is functioning as intended.
 
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