China's Space Program News Thread

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ougoah

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Okay since the core module that was launched in this CZ-5B is the largest and heaviest singular payload in this station project, they probably didn't bother doing one off de-orbit since the next launches should have enough fuel for the first stage to de-orbit with relative accuracy.

As for the first stage that reached orbit, has there ever been (in history) a first stage of such significant size that ever reached orbit? Also I doubt they have calculated where it will likely land because they don't control it at all and it is in orbit. It's almost impossible to accurately calculate when and how it re-enters atmosphere. It's roughly got a 70% chance of ocean landing but could also land somewhere in Africa, USA, Australia, China etc. Two countries on the booster's flight path have the ability to shoot down any larger fragments that don't disintegrate - China and US. If it lands in a major population area in Australia, there would be justified anger and high costs for payment. Although the probability of that is less than 0.001%. It's like throwing a rock in the middle of a forest and then landing precisely onto a bird's nest unlikely.

They're not complaining because they don't do it... they've been doing the same since the 1950s. It's just that this particular rocket's upper stage is also its first stage and it is absolutely massive compared to the upper stages of American, European, Russian, Japanese, and other Chinese rockets that use much smaller upper stages. Not counting Indian because even GSLV has a fraction of payload capability and would have no reason to have more significant stages that end up in orbit.
 

davidau

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Well said. China's scientists, engieers are well aware of the core's debris returming through the atmosphere and have calculated the possibility and probabilty that they would land on a populated area is next to zero as they would be burnt to unrecogisable small fragements. What happened to spaceX debris?
Core debris burnt up upon reentry and the rest tiny frgments into the Indian ocean....SAFELY
 
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Temstar

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Core debris burnt up upon reentry and the rest tiny frgments into the Indian ocean....SAFELY
I wonder if the type of fuel makes any difference.

Liquid hydrogen has crazy low density for liquid fuel so cryogenic rockets are necessarily big metal balloons with high drag co-efficient. I'm not sure if that's good for ensuring it burns up during re-entry or not. That said that's just the fuel tanks, the engines themselves are still quite dense objects.
 
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