China's Space Program News Thread

[iantsai]

Will manned lunar landing be before or after 2030?

I think they won't get there that quick.

In another January news clip Director Liu mentioned that the manned mission is scheduled to 'before 2035'. So the Chang'e-8 may just set up an outpost for the future manned research station.

In this news clip they didn't mentioned Chang'e-8, just -6 and -7.

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[siegecrossbow]

I think they won't get there that quick.

In another January news clip Director Liu mentioned that the manned mission is scheduled to 'before 2035'. So the Chang'e-8 may just set up an outpost for the future manned research station.

In this news clip they didn't mentioned Chang'e-8, just -6 and -7.

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Sounds like once they establish an outpost, they’ll be there to stay.

 

[gelgoog]

Will manned lunar landing be before or after 2030?

They need a rocket and the vehicle. Neither are in service. I do not see it happening any time soon.

 

[Quickie]

They need a rocket and the vehicle. Neither are in service. I do not see it happening any time soon.

And before that, they need to have the required rocket engines thoroughly tested and ready for production. So far we have only heard of the testing of modular parts of those moon rocket engines.

 

[taxiya]

Will manned lunar landing be before or after 2030?

yes, the answer is before or after 2030

 

[siegecrossbow]

yes, the answer is before or after 2030
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If it happens before 2030 then China could troll with its own man/woman on the moon before the decade is out speech.

 

[taxiya]

They need a rocket and the vehicle. Neither are in service. I do not see it happening any time soon.

CZ-5ZRL is to be ready before 2030, maiden flight somewhere around 2025 or 2026. Although it doesn't mean they will land people on the moon before 2030, but the rocket is there, also the new crew capsule will be ready before 2030.

And before that, they need to have the required rocket engines thoroughly tested and ready for production. So far we have only heard of the testing of modular parts of those moon rocket engines.

The required engines are YF-100K, YF-100M and YF-75E. The first two are already here. We just had YF-75E hot tested few days ago.

All you two are talking about CZ-9, but from the latest presentation by Long Lehao it seems that a small scale (appolo sized) touch and go human landing is still on the table, therefor CZ-9 is not the stopper.

 

[KampfAlwin]

I know this is a bit of a stretch, but the Americans started the Apollo Program in 1961, and landed a man in 1969. I have a feeling China can do the same before 2030, especially with the tech advancements today.

 

[Quickie]

CZ-5ZRL is to be ready before 2030, maiden flight somewhere around 2025 or 2026. Although it doesn't mean they will land people on the moon before 2030, but the rocket is there, also the new crew capsule will be ready before 2030.

The required engines are YF-100K, YF-100M and YF-75E. The first two are already here. We just had YF-75E hot tested few days ago.

All you two are talking about CZ-9, but from the latest presentation by Long Lehao it seems that a small scale (appolo sized) touch and go human landing is still on the table, therefor CZ-9 is not the stopper.

Yes, I was thinking of those huge moon rocket engines meant for carrying the moon station modules.

All you two are talking about CZ-9, but from the latest presentation by Long Lehao it seems that a small scale (appolo sized) touch and go human landing is still on the table, therefor CZ-9 is not the stopper.

If they intend on following this route, a manned moon mission happening within the decade is certainly possible.

CZ-5ZRL would require at least 2 launches for a manned moon mission, but so is the Artemis program with the combination of SLS Block 1, responsible only for carrying the Orion spacecraft, and SpaceX Starship (or another yet-to-be-decided moon landing craft) doing the moon soft landing.

 

[taxiya]

If they intend on following this route, a manned moon mission happening within the decade is certainly possible.

yes.

CZ-5ZRL would require at least 2 launches for a manned moon mission, but so is the Artemis program with the combination of SLS Block 1, responsible only for carrying the Orion spacecraft, and SpaceX Starship (or another yet-to-be-decided moon landing craft) doing the moon soft landing.

The US using Starship as a lander is a joke IMO. Starship landing need lots of refuelling back and forth from earth. It also need the gateway as the place for crew to move between starship lander and the orion back and forth. The gateway is far from the moon, that requires lot of DVs which translates to more fuel to be brought from earth. I just don't see it as a reliable and safe approach with so many refuelings. Two SLS block 1 just like two CZ-5ZRL are more realistic. If NASA is serious with starship landing, I doubt they will be on the moon surface before 2030.